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hardparadeMORE WEEDS.
I've been writing notes as I watch, sort of putting things under different headers, so I'll try to group stuff together. Not surprisingly, though, it is mostly just rambling with the occasional cap/gif/quote thrown in.
(Psst. Watch this show. Please. This season had Zooey Deschanel in it!)
First of all: Silas and Shane. Shane walks in on Silas having sex with Megan, and just stands there watching and grinning. SHANE. He is such a pervert from such a young age, it's so great. And then he's all "It was an accident! An AMAZING accident..." Also, Silas goes along to Shane's debate thing and claps enthusiastically for him even though he's awful, and then he gives him girl advice and it's just so cute. I feel like one of the few things Weeds has kinda dropped the ball on is their relationship, because there's a lot of potential there, but it feels like we see these brother moments once in a blue moon. They come after everyone's relationship with Nancy, which I guess makes sense in the theme of the show, but it kinda sucks.
Silas and Nancy's relationship is absolutely the most fascinating thing to me, though. I am sort of amazed at how their relationship always had the snarky quality it has now, because I never paid much attention to that and figured it was a recent development. But no! In the very first episode of season 2, he calls her Nancy! MIND BLOWN. Even way back then, he didn't want to think of her as his mother. And it's when Nancy's come home from fucking Peter, too, and so he's all "How was your sleepover, Nancy?" and then Megan comes in all half-naked and it's almost like he's shoving it in Nancy's face, like, look, I'm having sleepovers too.
I kind of like how Nancy seems to have this weird competitive thing going with Silas's girlfriends. I don't know if that's a normal Mom thing or not. I guess to some extent it is, feeling like another woman is taking your son away from you kind of thing. And from Silas's POV it's probably just rebellion, but because Silas and Nancy have a weird vibe, it makes it a little...well, weird. Like when she wants them to have a family dinner and she backs Silas up against the wall with the phone, trying to get him to cancel his plans with Megan. And he drops the phone even though he KNOWS how mad she is, and she grabs him and shoves him down over the table. That was a thing.
ALSO THIS:
Btw: I forgot that I really disliked Silas when I first watched the show, because he's generally pretty amicable later on. HE POKED A HOLE IN A DEAF GIRL'S CONDOM SO THAT SHE COULDN'T GO TO COLLEGE. I mean, seriously. Though I've found that the actions of most of the people on this show are a lot more understandable once you apply the theory that everything they do, they do for Nancy. Not necessarily to make her happy, but for her attention, or for her help. I mean, also Silas thought he was in love and he was possessive etc etc, but I think deep down it was a way to get attention from his absent mother, by making somebody else a mother, you know?
Anyway. So then Megan's Dad kicks Silas out of the house and when Nancy shows up after being at a drug thing Silas is all "Where were you? Where have you been?" which was sort of incredibly sad. And I love how Nancy starts like beating on the guy and defending Silas, and also—Silas STABBED MEGAN'S DAD IN THE ARM? I had no memory of this. It's interesting that violent streaks kinda seem to run in the family.
Nancy banging on Silas's door and begging him to talk to her! ♥ And then playing instruments and singing Polly Wolly Doodle outside his room until Andy and Shane are like PLEASE STOP OH GOD. That was just—agh, all these little moments earlier on where she actually makes an effort. And he keeps calling her Nancy and asking her about business, and it's still a little bit bitchy but he says "Stop thinking of me like a kid, talk to me," which is interesting because, like...yeah, she sort of stops being his Mom, but he encourages it, you know?
And even way back then, he wanted to be her business partner. "I want us to do this together. I think we would...be good together." ♥ But I have to admit I did crack up at her being like "I WILL NEVER EVER EVER LET YOU GET INVOLVED IN WHAT I DO." Famous last words.
Oh, my god, and this:
I love this because it's hilarious, but also because it's so perfect that Silas would leave the house to avoid hearing Nancy have sex, and Shane would probably listen through the wall and know exactly what went on. Like, even back then, this is how they operated.
ALSO IN THIS SEASON: NANCY BREAKS DOWN SILAS'S DOOR WITH AN AXE. And it turns out Silas has been stealing all the anti-drug stuff to protect her. And then Nancy stomps on the video proof to protect him right back. Love love love. Btw, this was the most dramatic season finale in the history of ever, right? And oh my god you just want to punch Silas in his perfect face but, it just shows how ridiculously desperate he is to get in on the business, like, the lengths he goes to.
I love that Shane ran and hid under the duvet on Nancy's bed after getting caught watching Silas have sex, because there's this theory I have about Shane and the way everything sexual revolves around family for him. Also, Andy takes him to get a handjob, which I mostly think of as AUGH OH GOD SO WRONG and then I focus on the Andy/Shane weirdness of that, but also I think that it's significant that his first sexual experience is with a much older woman.
Seriously though, the Andy/Shane weirdness of that. I mean, I know it's Andy, and he's super gross for the first few seasons and his moral compass is askew in ways that he doesn't even really get, but WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT? Also, his total joy when giving Shane the masturbation speech. Nancy tries it and is like a normal person about the whole thing, and then she asks Andy and he's like "I'm all over it!"
As well as Silas/Shane, the show lacks Andy/Silas. The kiss in season 6 was awesome (obviously) but it's weird because we rarely see them interact one-on-one. I did like how he told Silas to fake his way into college, and talked about doing the same thing himself, sitting in on lectures and having sex with girls there, because THAT IS WHAT SILAS DOES IN SEASON 6, and as always the continuity/foreshadowing in this show is awesomesauce. I also liked that scene where they were chillin' in the pool together, whining about how Nancy doesn't appreciate them.
My 'random' heading is, well, random, so bear with me. First of all, YAEL. YAEL WAS SO HOT. And hnng the scene where she has the hip flask in her stocking and he's all "I have to fuck you," that was inappropriately hot. I love the theme of Andy going for these dominant women, and also these slightly crazy women, because I think it all comes back to wanting Nancy, or at least goes some way to explain why he wants her the way he does. I feel like, as far as relationships go, this show doesn't do anything half-heartedly. They really make an effort to explain why these people do the things they do, and they don't beat you over the head with the explanation, which is nice.
But yeah, mainly: Yael fucked Andy in the ass with a strap-on. I loved you, Yael. One of my favourite things about Andy is his submissive nature, so their whole relationship was fun for me.
Look at him getting down on his knees for her, awww.
ZOOOOOOEY. It was super weird to watch Zooey's episodes again, 'cause they're the ones I started with, and it felt like I was seeing them from a whole new perspective, instead of "this is a show that Zooey is in" it was like "this is Weeds and Zooey is in it!" like, doubly awesome. I loved Kat so much, she was so crazy and awesome and hilarious. And I love that her craziness is similar to Nancy's in some ways, because Nancy hates her, and Andy and Shane are both kind of head-over-heels for her.
Heart hug! Yoga bemusement! Also the two of them dancing at the graduation party = adorable, and Gretchen's jealousy is hilarious. Idk they were just so cute. And just to make it inappropriate for a second, please tell me I'm not alone in wanting some older!Shane/Kat? Like, skipping ahead to the first episode of season 3 for a second—she says that thing about how they'll meet again and she thinks he's going to do some really interesting things with his facial hair. And in those lost years in Denmark, he had the crazy sideburns. Idk, idk.
I leave you with Shane and Silas's hilarious initial reactions to Kat. (A+ t-shirt, Silas!)
I've been writing notes as I watch, sort of putting things under different headers, so I'll try to group stuff together. Not surprisingly, though, it is mostly just rambling with the occasional cap/gif/quote thrown in.
(Psst. Watch this show. Please. This season had Zooey Deschanel in it!)
First of all: Silas and Shane. Shane walks in on Silas having sex with Megan, and just stands there watching and grinning. SHANE. He is such a pervert from such a young age, it's so great. And then he's all "It was an accident! An AMAZING accident..." Also, Silas goes along to Shane's debate thing and claps enthusiastically for him even though he's awful, and then he gives him girl advice and it's just so cute. I feel like one of the few things Weeds has kinda dropped the ball on is their relationship, because there's a lot of potential there, but it feels like we see these brother moments once in a blue moon. They come after everyone's relationship with Nancy, which I guess makes sense in the theme of the show, but it kinda sucks.
Silas and Nancy's relationship is absolutely the most fascinating thing to me, though. I am sort of amazed at how their relationship always had the snarky quality it has now, because I never paid much attention to that and figured it was a recent development. But no! In the very first episode of season 2, he calls her Nancy! MIND BLOWN. Even way back then, he didn't want to think of her as his mother. And it's when Nancy's come home from fucking Peter, too, and so he's all "How was your sleepover, Nancy?" and then Megan comes in all half-naked and it's almost like he's shoving it in Nancy's face, like, look, I'm having sleepovers too.
I kind of like how Nancy seems to have this weird competitive thing going with Silas's girlfriends. I don't know if that's a normal Mom thing or not. I guess to some extent it is, feeling like another woman is taking your son away from you kind of thing. And from Silas's POV it's probably just rebellion, but because Silas and Nancy have a weird vibe, it makes it a little...well, weird. Like when she wants them to have a family dinner and she backs Silas up against the wall with the phone, trying to get him to cancel his plans with Megan. And he drops the phone even though he KNOWS how mad she is, and she grabs him and shoves him down over the table. That was a thing.
ALSO THIS:
Silas: Why do you have a home pregnancy test?
Nancy: Do you want me to kill you?
Silas: I was just asking a question.
Nancy: I ask the questions. I'm the mother.
Silas: Okay.
Nancy: How did this happen?
Silas: You don't wanna hear it.
Nancy: Oh, but I really do.
Silas: If I had to bet on it, I'd say it was three weeks ago, in my room, doggystyle. When I pulled out, the condom was gone—Megan has really strong muscles, must've sucked the thing right off it, I didn't even—
Nancy: Ah! Ah! Ah! Stop, stop, stop!
Silas: You asked. Wanna be the cool Mom.
Nancy: No. No I don't. Million things in this world I wanna be, 'cool Mom' nowhere on that list.
Silas: Well, I hope 'Grandma' is on that list.
Btw: I forgot that I really disliked Silas when I first watched the show, because he's generally pretty amicable later on. HE POKED A HOLE IN A DEAF GIRL'S CONDOM SO THAT SHE COULDN'T GO TO COLLEGE. I mean, seriously. Though I've found that the actions of most of the people on this show are a lot more understandable once you apply the theory that everything they do, they do for Nancy. Not necessarily to make her happy, but for her attention, or for her help. I mean, also Silas thought he was in love and he was possessive etc etc, but I think deep down it was a way to get attention from his absent mother, by making somebody else a mother, you know?
Anyway. So then Megan's Dad kicks Silas out of the house and when Nancy shows up after being at a drug thing Silas is all "Where were you? Where have you been?" which was sort of incredibly sad. And I love how Nancy starts like beating on the guy and defending Silas, and also—Silas STABBED MEGAN'S DAD IN THE ARM? I had no memory of this. It's interesting that violent streaks kinda seem to run in the family.
Nancy banging on Silas's door and begging him to talk to her! ♥ And then playing instruments and singing Polly Wolly Doodle outside his room until Andy and Shane are like PLEASE STOP OH GOD. That was just—agh, all these little moments earlier on where she actually makes an effort. And he keeps calling her Nancy and asking her about business, and it's still a little bit bitchy but he says "Stop thinking of me like a kid, talk to me," which is interesting because, like...yeah, she sort of stops being his Mom, but he encourages it, you know?
And even way back then, he wanted to be her business partner. "I want us to do this together. I think we would...be good together." ♥ But I have to admit I did crack up at her being like "I WILL NEVER EVER EVER LET YOU GET INVOLVED IN WHAT I DO." Famous last words.
Oh, my god, and this:
Silas: I think not wanting to hear your Mom have sex with a narc is a good enough reason to stay out all night.
Shane: Nothing happened. Mom kicked him out after fifteen minutes.
Silas: Talk about the fastest gun in the west.
Nancy: Silas.
Shane: Shark week.
Nancy: Shane.
I love this because it's hilarious, but also because it's so perfect that Silas would leave the house to avoid hearing Nancy have sex, and Shane would probably listen through the wall and know exactly what went on. Like, even back then, this is how they operated.
ALSO IN THIS SEASON: NANCY BREAKS DOWN SILAS'S DOOR WITH AN AXE. And it turns out Silas has been stealing all the anti-drug stuff to protect her. And then Nancy stomps on the video proof to protect him right back. Love love love. Btw, this was the most dramatic season finale in the history of ever, right? And oh my god you just want to punch Silas in his perfect face but, it just shows how ridiculously desperate he is to get in on the business, like, the lengths he goes to.
I love that Shane ran and hid under the duvet on Nancy's bed after getting caught watching Silas have sex, because there's this theory I have about Shane and the way everything sexual revolves around family for him. Also, Andy takes him to get a handjob, which I mostly think of as AUGH OH GOD SO WRONG and then I focus on the Andy/Shane weirdness of that, but also I think that it's significant that his first sexual experience is with a much older woman.
Seriously though, the Andy/Shane weirdness of that. I mean, I know it's Andy, and he's super gross for the first few seasons and his moral compass is askew in ways that he doesn't even really get, but WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT? Also, his total joy when giving Shane the masturbation speech. Nancy tries it and is like a normal person about the whole thing, and then she asks Andy and he's like "I'm all over it!"
As well as Silas/Shane, the show lacks Andy/Silas. The kiss in season 6 was awesome (obviously) but it's weird because we rarely see them interact one-on-one. I did like how he told Silas to fake his way into college, and talked about doing the same thing himself, sitting in on lectures and having sex with girls there, because THAT IS WHAT SILAS DOES IN SEASON 6, and as always the continuity/foreshadowing in this show is awesomesauce. I also liked that scene where they were chillin' in the pool together, whining about how Nancy doesn't appreciate them.
My 'random' heading is, well, random, so bear with me. First of all, YAEL. YAEL WAS SO HOT. And hnng the scene where she has the hip flask in her stocking and he's all "I have to fuck you," that was inappropriately hot. I love the theme of Andy going for these dominant women, and also these slightly crazy women, because I think it all comes back to wanting Nancy, or at least goes some way to explain why he wants her the way he does. I feel like, as far as relationships go, this show doesn't do anything half-heartedly. They really make an effort to explain why these people do the things they do, and they don't beat you over the head with the explanation, which is nice.
But yeah, mainly: Yael fucked Andy in the ass with a strap-on. I loved you, Yael. One of my favourite things about Andy is his submissive nature, so their whole relationship was fun for me.
Look at him getting down on his knees for her, awww.
ZOOOOOOEY. It was super weird to watch Zooey's episodes again, 'cause they're the ones I started with, and it felt like I was seeing them from a whole new perspective, instead of "this is a show that Zooey is in" it was like "this is Weeds and Zooey is in it!" like, doubly awesome. I loved Kat so much, she was so crazy and awesome and hilarious. And I love that her craziness is similar to Nancy's in some ways, because Nancy hates her, and Andy and Shane are both kind of head-over-heels for her.
Heart hug! Yoga bemusement! Also the two of them dancing at the graduation party = adorable, and Gretchen's jealousy is hilarious. Idk they were just so cute. And just to make it inappropriate for a second, please tell me I'm not alone in wanting some older!Shane/Kat? Like, skipping ahead to the first episode of season 3 for a second—she says that thing about how they'll meet again and she thinks he's going to do some really interesting things with his facial hair. And in those lost years in Denmark, he had the crazy sideburns. Idk, idk.
I leave you with Shane and Silas's hilarious initial reactions to Kat. (A+ t-shirt, Silas!)
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Date: 2011-08-19 05:35 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2011-08-21 09:58 am (UTC)Awww, your icon.
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Date: 2011-08-30 01:12 am (UTC)AUGH sorry this took a bit college started up for me last week and i'm like AAUUGHHH whyyy am i going back to schooool lol BUT YES i finished season two OMGGG THE LAST EPISODE i just about had a heart attack fucking silas. like obviously they get out of the whole situation in order for the show to have six or whatever seasons after that but at the moment i was like HOW IS THIS EVEN GOING TO HAPPEN. i'm still panicking because i just watched the first ep of season 3 and fucking celia, throwing the weed into the pool idk idkkk. POOR NANCY so much stress haha
so yesss silas and megan and nancy like i'm almost sad for silas? thinking that he could get megan to stay with him by getting her pregnant like there's no such thing as adoption or abortions and they would live happily ever after with this kid. just so obviously something that's not gonna happen, especially with her getting into princeton (right? lol i don't really remember), i mean, that's A LOT to throw away. just feeling bad for silas and his delusions.
i looove silas' "I'd say it was three weeks ago, in my room, doggystyle...", how he just goes into all this detail even though he's talking to his MOTHER, like he doesn't even care. but SILAS STABBING MEGAN'S DAD like oh, way to leave that bit out lol and then i go back to feeling bad for him because he wanted that life with megan so bad that he freaking stabs her dad, just to get to her?? i almost feel like he wanted megan and that kid so bad, to be like a pretend family sort of, so he and megan could be the parents he never really had? well like obviously judah and nancy were great parents but then judah dies and nancy, try as she might, kind of goes downhill, what with not being able to be there and making horrible decisions. idk just some thoughts haha
i also super love nancy trying so hard to get silas to talk to her. AND GOING TO SUCH LENGTHS. seeing her do all those things, singing and playing her instruments and THE AXE JFC, it really shows how much she does love her kids throughout all that shit.
ok. Yael. YAEL. ok. idk. basically i thought she was kind of fucking awesome? especially since andy seems to be able to get any woman into his bed and here's this gorgeous woman saying that he's not man enough for her? LOVE. and maybe i got off on yael fucking andy a lot more than i thought i would?? ANYWHO. and it was super that she slapped the shit out of andy when he told her he'd be dropping out of the school. like it should've been kind of obvious he wasn't going to stay there forever but she also gave him what he deserved.
ZOOEY. AUUUGH ZOOEEEEY SHE WAS SO FREAKING FABULOOOUUSSS. seriously i loved her before this but seeing her play kat was just ridiculousness all around. and how even though andy said he'd have her out by the next day, the fact that he actually likes her and maybe wants her to stay? i'm not saying she was, like, "the one" for him, but i think kat was pretty good for him. and shane falling her just completed the whole thing. AND i've seen pictures of shane's sideburns and when i first saw him i was like wtfff so kat saying that i was like FORESHADOWINGGG haha
overall another ridic season and i shan't stop watching!
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Date: 2011-09-01 02:15 pm (UTC)Seriously though that season finale, it is like the most cliffhanger-y of all season finales. IT'S SO GOOD. And yeah, even though you KNOW things must get figured out, you just can't imagine HOW. And then season 3 kicking off with MORE CLIFFHANGERS is just the best. The writing on this show is just - I can't wrap my head around it.
POOR DELUDED SILAS. I totally get what you mean about him maybe wanting to recreate the family they once had, like - I mean a normal teenage boy's reaction to his girlfriend getting pregnant would probably be more like AUUUUGH NOOOOO but Silas makes it happen on purpose, and then is ridiculously excited and romantic about the whole thing, and I think that says a lot about him and his own childhood. Like he feels like he's lost his own family, everything is going to shit, and maybe he could make another family where things would be perfect. Silaaaas.
Srsly though when he's going into detail about the ~conception, it's like, SILAS, THAT IS YOUR MOTHER. I get that he's winding her up because she's being all "I want to know" and he knows she doesn't, but STILL. Again, most teenage boys would probably rather die than recount their sexual adventures to a parent. Once again: Silaaaaaaaaas.
The bit with Nancy trying to get him to talk to her is one of my favourites. Because like, she's mad at him for everything and he's just been a total idiot, but she can't stand seeing him so upset. And it's like, ugh, throughout the whole season they just keep MISSING each other, like she desperately wants him to talk to her but he won't, and there's a bit where he tells her to stop seeing him as a kid and to talk to him, and SHE WON'T.
ffffff glad you agree about Yael, she was AWESOME. SO AWESOME. And yeah, I liked that she called Andy out on his shit and wasn't just going to be like "sure, I'll sleep with you" just because that's what he wanted. And I love that even though the strap-on thing clearly freaked him out a bit, he was willing to try it, because it was her. (And that was TOTALLY HOT btw.) There's a bit in s4 where Nancy threatens to squeeze Andy's balls til he gives her his car keys (...that will make sense when you get to it) and he says "...I miss Yael." ♥
KAT WAS THE BEST GIRLFRIEND THOUGH. PURELY FOR HER INSANITY. I think they were kind of weirdly perfect for each other actually. I mean, she's not HEALTHY for him, but that sort of craziness kinda seems to be what he needs. It's why he sticks with Nancy all this time. Like he kind of needs this impulsive woman in his life who'll make him do things he wouldn't usually do. I feel like he'd get bored with anyone else, you know?
LOL the sideburns. I really want to know if they drew on that line of Kat's when they were planning stuff for season 7, like if they were trying to find ways of making Shane look three years older and they were like "WAIT! INTERESTING THINGS WITH FACIAL HAIR!" or if it was just a total coincidence. Either way: awesome, Kat is clearly clairvoyant. Ugh god it probably seems weird to you at this point because Shane's still so tiny, but I want Kat/older!Shane so bad.
SO GLAD YOU'RE STILL ENJOYING THE SHOW YAY. ♥ And on an unrelated note, you should join
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Date: 2011-09-26 12:53 am (UTC)oooh~ this sounds exciting lol especially the one about mgg/anton while filming the criminal minds episode ohoho sounds familiar~ AND IT MAKES ME SUPER WANT TO FINISH SOMETHING aauuugh i don't understand why it's so ridiculously hard for me to finish something lol
short!reply is short D : mostly because i keep wanting to talk about season 3 in response to all of this so i'll do that in the season 3 pooosst : D
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Date: 2011-10-09 03:24 pm (UTC)HA I knew as I wrote it how pointless being anon was, IT WAS SO CLEARLY ME. Someone started a fill though, which is AWESOME.
THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME, BB. ♥
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Date: 2011-10-26 04:08 am (UTC)aauugh and andy being into shane dating kat, like asking shane. like. "has she given you a hand job? where she does that thing where she grips your cock a certain way..." blah blah blah haha and they talk about how kat gives blow jobs or something and andy telling shane what she likes and then maybe even asking kat how shane reacts to something IDK. and then somehow kat convinces everyone into a threesome haha or kind of kidnapping shane and andy some way and taking them all onto a road trip ROAD TRIPS and they have sex in some shit motel. or whatever. you know. YOU KNOOOW.
lol yes yes. but D : i went through the prompts and there wasn't really one i was...inspired by haha like. quite a few of them are, uh, interesting i guess but. lol idk. and i don't find christopher mintz-plasse attractive and bottom!rdj is weird to me lolol sooo idk maybe i'll post a prompt or something.
THAT IS ALL ♥♥
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Date: 2011-10-26 06:40 pm (UTC)YES, ANDY WOULD SO TOTALLY DO THAT. And Shane would be like "stop being such a perv" but secretly he'd enjoy it, and okay, maybe sometimes he thinks about Andy when he's with Kat, and Kat's so WEIRD that she'd probably be comparing their technique out loud anyway, probably getting a kick out of it as well. ROAD TRIPS AND SEX IN MOTELS. I need this to exist.
And yeah, I know what you mean, I couldn't see anything I felt I could write either. :(
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Date: 2011-08-22 03:53 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-08-23 10:19 pm (UTC)