[#4] i want you, and i want you bad

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THIS POST BROUGHT TO YOU BY IMMENSE AMOUNTS OF SEXUAL FRUSTRATION.

Sex and sexy things picspam, part four.

Sadly hardly any of these have credit, but as always it's click-through where available, and if you know the source of something, let me know! As well as the pictures, many of the sites linked to are NSFW.

If you enjoyed this and are not already on my porn filter (under which I post downloads of porn in video-format) let me know and I'll add you to it!

Comments

[likecharity.livejournal.com]

RIGHT? It helps that that's the position I'm actually using for them in my fic...

And, that totally makes sense. That's how I feel about them ALL THE TIME lately.

Nope, that's how I would see it too! Although, I'm not sure I can actually imagine her using her hands/mouth with Jack - for some reason I picture them having really quick and dirty sex after gigs but never taking the time to explore each other in other ways. I'm totally over-analyzing, lol.

[likecharity.livejournal.com]

OMG how bad is it that I actually knew which video that was going to be before I clicked? I JUST KNEW. Because I remember being absolutely fascinated by the look in her eyes when I first saw it. There is definitely a want (almost a need) in her expression that's almost tired, like she's just emotionally exhausted from wanting him so much, having to be so close to him so often and knowing it will never lead to anything. (Or, if something happened and they put a stop to it - that it will never happen again.) I mean, with a lot of their stuff, I'm willing to believe that it's just acting - but there is NO WAY Alison is THAT much of a talented actress. You can't fake that, surely?!

SIGH.

I would love to read a fic that compares her relationships with Jack and Jamie. Little things like keeping her rings on, and then like the grand scheme of things like the difference in the emotional connections she has with them. Lately I keep coming back to that quote of hers, when she said "I need to find a Jack or a Jamie. But single." It's like she's admitting they're both sort of perfect for her, and it seems odd to acknowledge that so casually, like it's something she's always been aware of.

Gah, I'm rambling now, sorry!!

[likecharity.livejournal.com]

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT JOB, TOO. I WOULD KICK ASS AT A JOB LIKE THAT, OH MAN.

I agree. I secretly think that very little of what we see of her and Jack is purely for show - I know it's sort of the general belief that they're putting it on, but I just have this feeling like it doesn't fit with who they are. I don't really see them thinking "oh, let's act like we've got sexual tension because then people will be more interested in our band," you know? I can see them using that as an EXCUSE for the sexual tension they already have, but that's it, really. I don't know.

What you said about Alison walking lines - spot on. That's totally how I see her too. A little bit masochistic, really. And I think the truth is that probably all of these relationships are far more complicated than we imagine, like they can't just be put in boxes or labelled easily.

I have NEVER understood the Black Balloon video. Like, the whole thing seems like some giant metaphor that I just don't get. It's definitely implied that SOMETHING significant has happened between them.

Yay, so glad you're writing the fic! Your Alison/Jamie one about the guitar-sex was the first of yours I've read, because I have these weird issues about reading Alison/Jack (I know, MASSIVE HYPOCRITE) but I'm definitely looking forward to this one.

[likecharity.livejournal.com]

Lol okay I seriously think we have the same brain, I have ALWAYS thought she might have been a self-harmer when she was younger. The way she always wears trousers kind of made me think of it first - like, fair enough, she doesn't like skirts, but she never even wears shorts! It makes me wonder if there are scars on her legs somewhere, and maybe there are some hidden on her arms too (she never wears tank tops, and even with t-shirts she seems to prefer to add another layer with long sleeves, which is odd seeing as she hates the heat so much.) And yeah, everything she's said about her mental state just before she moved...I do think SOMETHING was going on with her. I've always sort of wondered if she had eating issues, too - she is just very self-conscious about her body in general it seems.

Oooh, I never really thought about the meaning of the vampirism, that's interesting. I was trying to get my head round it before - the idea that Alison becomes a vampire as a result of something Jamie's done (a fight, or feeling neglected by him) like as a sort of emotional response, and then she needs blood in order to go on living, and she chooses to bite him. And I always wondered if we're supposed to believe that Jamie's dead at the end, or if she's turned him. PLUS there's something really sexual about vampires, and there's bits of the video where it looks like Alison's almost stalking him like prey.

[likecharity.livejournal.com]

Yeah! I REALLY hate heat and have fainted in hot weather like she has, so in the summer I try to wear like, as little as possible in order to make things easier for myself. I don't understand how she wears several layers in hot, crowded clubs under spotlights and stuff and doesn't just keel over. (Now I want really sweet, earlydays!fic where Jamie discovers all her body issues and tells her she's beautiful all the time and maybe kisses her scars.)

That's true. I think it must have a lot to do with Jamie - like meeting him brought her out of her shell a lot, and I can imagine her intentionally developing a different "look" for The Kills, growing her hair and losing weight and stuff. OR it could just have been because they were really poor and didn't have any food. XD

VAMPIRE ALISON FIC. OH, DO WANT. How are there so many possibilities in this fandom? I felt really limited at first because I was so resistant to the idea of Alison/Jack, and I'm so particular about Alison/Jamie and weirdly resistant to the idea of them having actual sex. But writing the really long fic I mentioned to you where they DO have sex seems to have opened me up to all kinds of other options and it's awesome.

[likecharity.livejournal.com]

WE ARE OBVIOUSLY TWINS, SOMEHOW. Ooomg, I would love to see the self-harm scenario written. In general it's a subject that I'm iffy about in fic because I've struggled with it myself, but this scenario just works so perfectly that I'm so curious.

Yay!!

Seriously, SO MUCH RESISTANCE. It's ridiculous. I wasn't even planning for there to be sex, but then Jack showed up and was like OKAY, YOU TWO NEED TO FUCK and it was such a perfect scene that I couldn't scrap it or ignore it and basically he just dictated the direction it was going in. But it was so hard to write and I'm still not happy with it - the problem is that it has to be this huge life-changing moment, but they have to be in denial of that otherwise they'll be too scared to go through with it, so then it comes across like it's not ENOUGH of a big deal. And then there's the whole issue with what the hell happens afterwards, which is basically what I'm left struggling with. It seems a cop-out for it to just end on the morning after but I have no idea what else to do.

Haha, wow, SUDDEN FIC ANGSTING at you there, sorry about that. I was talking it through with someone else but her laptop broke and since then I've mostly just been driving myself crazy with it all.

[likecharity.livejournal.com]

That's another thing I thought about, like just slipping in a mention of it, but then it seemed like it would just be glossing over it. Because it's a delicate subject and you don't want to just be like "btw Alison used to cut herself" or something and risk triggering someone without even really explaining the relevance.

Yay! Omg these comment threads are getting ridiculous but I LOVE IT. Do you mind if I friend you? It seems we've reached that point. XD

OH HOLY GOD - I mean he basically just gives Alison a verbal smackdown and plants the idea in her head but because of the way you phrased it, I'm now thinking of a fic where he LITERALLY DIRECTS THEM INTO BED. Where he's just like "right, I am sick of your issues, you need to fuck and work everything out" and they're so freaked and incompetent that they need his help, to reassure them that it's not going to be the end of the world and to make sure they actually GO THROUGH WITH IT. I can just see him sitting there in an armchair in their hotel room with a glass of whiskey or something, being like "for god's sake, Jamie, take her shirt off" and maybe having to come over and do it himself. GUH.

Seriously, so many possibilities.

Thank you for the support!! ♥

[likecharity.livejournal.com]

I'm sure it is, it sounds like you're really thinking about it and handling it carefully so it should be okay. ALSO I HAVE NOW FRIENDED YOU. YAY. :D Every now and then I have some sort of Kills-related epiphany or want to totally dissect one photo/quote, and I have this one friend I usually go to for that because it seems like it's not worth making a post, but now there's one extra person who might be interested. XD

OH MY GOD ISN'T IT THE HOTTEST THOUGHT? I mean it's a little absurd, but at the same time it makes sense, because it sort of fits with Jack's character, and his motivation could be like, he needs Alison to stop flirting with him because otherwise he might give in one day and he can't do that, so maybe if she gets her act together with Jamie she'll forget about him. Only then watching them fuck gets him totally worked up and he ends up giving in anyway so he just ends up creating more trouble for himself.

I feel like it would be sort of disrespectful if he fucked Alison right after though, just because it's obviously such a HUGE moment for her and Jamie and it's so special and everything, buuuuuut, it would be SO HARD to not write that happening. I have experience with this - when there's a fandom where I ship everyone, every fic has the risk of turning into an orgy. It's so hard to focus on one pairing and ignore another if you're writing about more than just those two people. Because with this, I'm suddenly like, what about Kate?? Is she cool with this whole thing happening, and if so, wouldn't SHE want to be there? (Cannot even go down that route, TOO DANGEROUS.) And if not, would Jamie really do it? Like, frantic unexpected sex after a show is one thing, but sort of planning it out and getting Jack to assist is another.

I said I wasn't going to go down that route, but - I always forget that Kate was in that White Stripes video that one time, POLEDANCING OF ALL THINGS, like way to make the connection unnecessarily sexual, thanks. But I was just saying, because whenever I talk about Jack and Kate in relation to each other I wonder about how the two of them would interact and then I'm like OH YEAH, THAT VIDEO. How did that even come about? Was Jack just like "hey, it'd be hot if Kate Moss poledanced in our video" and if so, IS THAT NOT WEIRD now that Jamie is now married to her?

I just tried to google that to find out what the story behind the video is, and was reminded that both Kate and Alison have featured on Primal Scream songs. CONNECTIONS, CONNECTIONS EVERYWHERE. Also I literally can't find an explanation, which makes me suspicious that they WERE just like "this could be hot" and that was the entirety of the thought process.

[likecharity.livejournal.com]

First of all: OH MY GOD EVEN MORE CONNECTIONS WHAT THE HELL. And also, I have seen that video, but it was a long time ago, so thank you for bringing it back into my life. OHHH, ALISON. She is so ADORABLY uncomfortable with the entire concept, oh my god. I love how everyone's there in basically lingerie or like, fetishwear, and she's...in her jeans. She's so cute, oh my god. And yet, yeah, totally the sexiest part of the video! SHE IS MAGIC. (And isn't it fascinating how she IS so uncomfortable with that, and with getting "sexy" for a music video, even though she's basically simulated sex with Jamie onstage? They say they don't see that as sexual and I'm always like OH COME ON, but when you think about how Alison seems about sex in general, it's like...oh. She actually might not even put those things in the same category. ...Jamie has no excuse though.)

Ohgod BOTH OF THEM yes. I can't even remember what my original plan for this threesome was, when I started writing it ages ago, but I'm pretty sure there was going to be some Jack/Jamie going on. That's another interesting dynamic to me because they are clearly friends, but Jamie must have felt so possessive of Alison when TDW started, and really NOT enjoyed seeing her sexual tension with Jack onstage.

I can totally see him just brusquely leaving, like without a word just downing the rest of his drink and going. Probably to jerk off furiously somewhere but also to angst about the whole thing at the same time. And oooh, just to entertain the Jack-fucking-Alison-after idea a little bit more, I can see them almost getting into a routine of Jack watching them, or at least it happening once more - maybe even the morning after - and then THAT would be the time when Jack sort of can't take it and has to have Alison too.

And man, can you imagine JAMIE watching? Like, if Jack is angsty about seeing someone else with her, Jamie would just be OFF THE SCALE. Oh, weird, that just brought back a memory about my original threesome fic idea! I just remembered that there was going to be a bit where Jack would be really rough with her and Jamie would tell him off, and Jack would be like "she likes it" and Jamie would feel all possessive and weird because he knows she can TAKE it, like they've been rough with each other in fights and stuff, but he doesn't like seeing someone else treat her that way, you know?

♥ That sounds awesome! I might start making posts about them again, actually.

[likecharity.livejournal.com]

ME TOO. I still remember when it started and I realised what the general idea was, and I was just like...THERE IS NO WAY ALISON IS COMING ON IN FISHNETS AND UNDERWEAR, SURELY? And then there she was looking awkward in her jeans and I was reassured.

I definitely think it has something to do with it being live. I even feel like she's said something about that, though I can't recall exactly and I might be thinking of someone else - but something about it just being this moment that you can't ever get back, so it's sort of the purest representation of them/their music. Plus, she always talks about there being like a line between her and the audience onstage, like she can sort of do whatever she wants up there and there's no rules etc. I think she feels safe because of those things, so she can express herself honestly. Which happens to involve (or used to involve) simulating sex with Jamie. WHICH IS TELLING, TO SAY THE LEAST.

I like the idea of Jack getting off on Jamie's discomfort. Because BOTH of them are kind of possessive of her and probably Jack feels some competition there even though he knows there's no way he can possibly compete with Jamie in this - but like, he CAN make him uncomfortable, and that's something. Hnnng holding her wrists above her head. SHE WOULD TOTALLY GET OFF ON THAT. It's weird because I can see Jamie and Alison having quite violent sex too, but Jamie feels okay with that because he knows how much he really cares about her, whereas with Jack...Jamie doesn't know if it's like "I'm doing this because I love it but also you love it too" or just "I would be doing this anyway even if it wasn't 100% your thing."

NEVER TOO MUCH EVER.

[likecharity.livejournal.com]

PROBABLY NOT, SADLY. Hnnnnnng, a gun as well, I WOULD EXPLODE. There is that video, though, is it the Love Is A Deserter one? *checks* Yeah, here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgjXp3fIFLI) around 2:40, where she's standing on a bed in a t-shirt and tiny shorts and starts to lift her t-shirt up? I was really shocked when I saw that, but then again, it is AWFUL quality and they've used that weird morphing effect, so she was clearly still a bit shy about it.

I'm slightly struggling to make words now because a) hnnnnnnnng, and b) listening to that song just made me realise something I've never noticed before - there's that line "got me where you want me again" which is INTERESTING because in Jamie's song as Fuji, 'Saints Preserve Us', there's the repeated lines 'got you where I want you' and 'got me where you want me'. And I always figured that song was about Alison in some way because it was probably written shortly after meeting her and there's the line 'soft like moss, my dripping heart', which...yeah. I can't believe I never noticed that before.

ANYWAY. That's a good point about the contradictive nature of the stage persona/true self thing. I don't really get that. It is really interesting though - Jamie's said that he thinks she's most like herself onstage, too, hasn't he? And that when he first saw her perform it seemed like she was totally herself, while talking to her offstage it seemed like she was playing a part. So interesting, actually, that he could pick that up in basically their first interactions, when surely he had no idea of who she truly was or anything like that.

I played around with writing the whole Jack-watching idea and it just IS NOT WORKING, because it either has to be kind of tongue-in-cheek (to acknowledge the weirdness of it all) which doesn't really fit with the three of them, or deadly serious (which makes it hard to explain how they found themselves in that position in the first place). It sucks, because it is SUCH A HOT THING TO IMAGINE.

[likecharity.livejournal.com]

RIGHT? Hnnnng.

Yeah, definitely! It's really frustrating because I've never been able to pinpoint when they met so I don't know for SURE if the dates match up with the Fiji stuff and the last Discount album. Some of the lyrics seem too relevant/significant to ignore though.

OH MY GOD THAT IS SUCH A GOOD POINT. LIKE, WHAT THE HELL. They DO always talk about shutting out the audience and just performing for each other and pretending they were back in that little room. Which - I imagine they always did the intense staring thing when they were alone, but what about the more outright sexual stuff? It's like with your fic. GOD, the idea of the guitar sex happening for the first time when they were all alone, I just can't. And yeah, if it's the performance/audience that gives them the opportunity to be sexual (because it's such an unnatural environment in which they can do anything etc) then how does that work with the whole IGNORING the crowd thing? Like you said, if it's just for each other, the crowd isn't necessary, but at the same time it seems like performing gives them a freedom they couldn't have otherwise. WHAT.

And, yeah. EPIC LEVELS OF DENIAL. It's quite impressive, really.

Jack is SO hard to write. Too coy vs. too heavy is totally the issue, isn't it? And being able to picture it makes it so much more frustrating. I have this snapshot of an image, of him sitting by the bed watching them like we talked about, but actually trying to EXPLAIN that just doesn't seem to work. I might try a version where it's super srs bsns and see how that goes. I'm not ready to let go of the idea!!

Oh by the way, I don't know if you saw, but - I had a bit of a Kills epiphany earlier and made a post about it, I'd love to hear your thoughts!