Skins post!

[hardparade]

Okaaay so I just finished watching 3x02 of Skins.


I'm not sure how I feel about it. It was just kind of...idk, there was something MISSING up until the last like, 15-20 minutes or so. It didn't feel like a second episode, it felt more like a third or fourth if that makes sense...maybe just because the first one was such a good start and it really felt like a BEGINNING, or maybe because there was no real transition/explanation in terms of the kids all hanging out together.

Cook still DISGUSTS ME TO MY VERY CORE. Ughh. I did like a few of his lines, like when he walked in on JJ and the prostitute and he was like "Sorry if you're fucking, sorry if you're fucking, sorry if you're fucking!" XD and "You're supposed to be banging her, not canoodling," although that one might've just been because I find the word 'canoodling' hilarious in pretty much any context.

Anyway, just, all-round UGH to him and his character and I DO NOT GET why people are comparing him to Chris and saying he's trying to be the new Chris or whatever. I don't see the similarities! Chris was like a million times more likeable! And more sane!

Also, from the second it started, I was already bored by the whole good-boy!Freddie vs. bad-boy!Cook thing. It's so obvious and cliché and dull. Freddie always having to bail him out of trouble, and eventually saying he's 'done with it'. It's just...so blah. Like Freddie's character in general, tbh. I still see nothing interesting there.

And yet, in spite of all that, I think I ship Cook/Freddie. LIKE MAYBE QUITE A LOT, OKAY. :/ I don't get it either. But I guess there must be SOMETHING that intrigues me about their characters and this whole storyline. And the bit in the shed with the "I fucking love you"? That's kind of all a slasher needs, I suppose. At that point, I paused the video, and went to find a Cook/Freddie community to join. (Psst. cookfreddie.)

As for other people, Effy is still amazing and gorgeous and I love her. It's very, very weird to see her like, in a group of friends, though. I mean, I know they're not really 'friends' yet but seeing her out with a consistent gang felt odd. I think it's going to be a struggle for me to see her start really caring about people, hahaha. I'm really liking the idea of Effy/Pandora at the moment though, I love the way she sort of looks after her. Like, it's not REALLY 'looking after her' but I liked how when Pandora collapsed Effy was like "Pandora, wake up you silly cow." And when she led her off home. It's sweet.

Speaking of Pandora, I hope she becomes something other than comic relief? I mean, I like her being comic relief, but I want there to be more to her character otherwise it's going to wear a bit thin, I think.

JJ is quickly becoming my favourite out of the new characters. He's just...AWWW. ♥ He only wanted to kiss the prostitute!! And he'd never kissed anyone before. It was so sweet, I love him. I hope he gets to keep a little bit of his innocence. :/

EMILY/NAOMI is going to be interesting, too. I'm excited for that. I want to see more of the twins, I was just thinking it seems like they (and Naomi) didn't have much to do this episode.

So, overall, not hugely impressed, but then, it was a Cook-based episode and I hate him, so I guess that was to be expected. XD

Is that all I had to say? I guess so!

Comments

[http://users.livejournal.com/_profiterole_/]

I can't bear Cook either! He was a little annoying in episode 1, but this... there's no word to express how I can't bear this type of character. I see what you mean about the Cook/Freddie scene, I'm thinking more in terms of Cook/JJ and in this episode he kissed JJ on the cheek at the party and they left together when Freddie left on his own. Still, I can't bear Cook.

And yes, we need more of the twins and Naomi. And Effy. People seem to be fond of Pandora, I don't really get it, but at least, she's nothing like Cook.

[likecharity.livejournal.com]

I'm glad you agree! Ugh. There's just like, no redeeming qualities at all. :/ I think the reason I like the idea of Cook/Freddie more than Cook/JJ is because I really like JJ, whereas I don't really care about Freddie...it's easier to pair Freddie up with a character I hate, I guess. I've re-read that sentence like fifty times and I still don't think it makes much sense, hopefully you get what I mean though. XD

I don't feel particularly strongly about Pandora, idk. She can be quite sweet and amusing but that's about it, I guess. I'd like to see more of her, but only if there's more TO her, you know?

[http://users.livejournal.com/_profiterole_/]

It makes sense, sort of like sacrificing a character to pair him up with Cook. XD

I don't even feel like seeing more of Pandora, really. We need some twincest, though that doesn't really work with the girls' personalities, I think, and some Effy/Emily, because I loved the way Effy looked at Emily in episode 1 and just saw her. And I'm curious to see what they're going to do with Naomi/Emily.

[likecharity.livejournal.com]

Haha, exactly!!

You're the first person to mention twincest I think, and I totally agree. I think it could sort of work, maybe, in quite an angsty way rather than a we're-twins-we-do-everything-together way. I've been thinking about it, I want to see more of them so I have a better idea of their characters/family and stuff though. And I agree about Effy/Emily, too!! Definitely.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_profiterole_/]

Really? Twincest should be the first reaction to the word "twins," except for people who aren't at all into incest. Emily would be pining for Katie and Katie would be totally oblivious, or on the contrary would know about it and tease her and Emily would be all sad. :-(

I'm glad I'm not the only one seeing Effy/Emily. ^_^ Effy/Katie and Naomi/Katie have been mentioned, but not Effy/Emily. Strange...

[likecharity.livejournal.com]

Haha, definitely!! But yeah you're the first one I've seen mention it anyway. XD And I can see it happening that way, yeah. Or like...Katie being in denial about her homosexuality and being a bitch to Emily/Naomi because of that. Ooh, I want to write some.

Effy/Katie seems a bit random to me, Effy/Emily seems way more obvious.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_profiterole_/]

Yay for me mentioning it, then! XD Katie being jealous of Emily/Naomi, yeah, more in fandom than in canon, but yeah.

And Effy/Emily would be gorgeous! ^_^ I'm usually not into blondes, and Naomi clearly doesn't do it for me. Plus, she's not of the butch type, but she gives off butch-y vibes in a way. I can't explain it well.

[letmypidgeonsgo.livejournal.com]

omg yay Effy/Emily! *votes for this too*

[http://users.livejournal.com/_profiterole_/]

Yay! ^__^ I agree with what you said below about Effy's sexuality. I can totally see her as bi in canon.

[letmypidgeonsgo.livejournal.com]

I don't hate Cook. There are definitely Chris-type things there, like all the drugs, and the crazy partying without any regard to more important things in life. He's also a bit Tony, in terms of cockiness I guess. I didn't like the ep, but it was more because of general plot & pacing than b/c of Cook. And yeah, this def felt like it should have come later.

Effy and Pandora are soooo Tony and Sid, in terms of one clearly being the dominant one & sort of looking out for the other while also just thinking they're really stupid sometimes. Cook and JJ are also very Tony and Sid, esp the bit in the tunnel where everyone else leaves but JJ just follows Cook like a puppy.

I know everyone loves the Emily/Naomi thing, but from the vibe I've been getting, it seems like Naomi really has no interest. I think she's actually sort of begrudgingly interested in Cook, though she'd never admit it to herself or anyone else. I actually kind of really want to see Effy/Emily. When I was capping to make icons I was really intrigued by the looks Effy was giving her, and how she sort of instantly picked up on the twins' dynamic. Plus, from what I can remember, we've not yet seen Effy with a girl, but, like her brother, I'm sure her sexuality is somewhat..pliable.

Oh, and can we PLEASE get rid of this Johnny White guy? He's like Mad Twatter, but (and I didn't think this were even possible) more annoying.

Ooh, must go post my icons! Heh.

[likecharity.livejournal.com]

I guess so. I think Chris always just seemed nicer, but...I don't know. I agree about Effy and Pandora being like Tony and Sid in terms of the type of friendship, for sure. Idk...I've been trying to be careful about comparing the characters like that, because I feel like it could be taken too far and I want to see them as new people instead of, you know, people who look different but have basically the same personalities/friendships as the old characters. It's so easy to automatically compare though.

I think Naomi's interested in Cook too, I think she's supposed to be bisexual? I'm not sure where they'll go with that. I'm interested to see what they do though. And I prefer the idea of Effy/Emily too, and I can definitely imagine Effy being with girls.

Ugh, Johnny White is irritating me, too. Hopefully we won't see much more of him.

Ooh, I'm interested to see your icons!!

[letmypidgeonsgo.livejournal.com]

Yeah, Chris seemed more like someone who could also be really sweet & lovely, which we've yet to see from Cook.

I wouldn't be surprised if Naomi were bisexual (at the very least I don't think she's offended by the idea of kissing a girl), but I got the feeling that she just wasn't interested in Emily.

icons! whee!

[jennilokay.livejournal.com]

okay so i havent watched this as detailedly (?) as i should have.

BUT I SHIP THE REDHEADED SISTERS.

[likecharity.livejournal.com]

Haha YAY. Me too. :D

[litterthisheart.livejournal.com]

I do not like Cook at all. There are times, like when he told Freddie he loved him, that I thought "He is one emotionally fucked up kid" and wondered WTH happened to him and feeling a bit sad for him but, mostly, I just do not like him.

And I didn't like the whole gangster thing. I love Mackenzie Crook but I don't like his role AT ALL. I don't want this season to be all action/gangster stuff- I want it to focus on the kids and their LIVES.

I hope next week is about a character I actually like...

(must get Skins icon)

[likecharity.livejournal.com]

Yeah, same. Like, I think I could end up liking him if we get to see WHY he is the way he is, and that sort of thing, but seeing as this was his episode and we got no backstory, I doubt we will. Meh.

Yeah, I agree, and it's played out really because the character's like Mad Twatter from S1. It's boring.

[sundappled.livejournal.com]

YES YES YES TO ALL OF THIS. I FEEL LIKE YOUR BRAIN TWIN RIGHT NOW.

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Cook still DISGUSTS ME TO MY VERY CORE. Ughh. I did like a few of his lines, like when he walked in on JJ and the prostitute and he was like "Sorry if you're fucking, sorry if you're fucking, sorry if you're fucking!" XD and "You're supposed to be banging her, not canoodling," although that one might've just been because I find the word 'canoodling' hilarious in pretty much any context.

It's just...so blah. Like Freddie's character in general, tbh. I still see nothing interesting there. Except that he's clearly the pretty boy here; that's about all the interest I have for him (which is quite a fair amount XD).

And yet, in spite of all that, I think I ship Cook/Freddie ... the bit in the shed with the "I fucking love you"? That's kind of all a slasher needs, I suppose.

Y/Y.

It's very, very weird to see her like, in a group of friends, though. I mean, I know they're not really 'friends' yet but seeing her out with a consistent gang felt odd. I think it's going to be a struggle for me to see her start really caring about people, hahaha. I'm really liking the idea of Effy/Pandora at the moment though, I love the way she sort of looks after her. Like, it's not REALLY 'looking after her' but I liked how when Pandora collapsed Effy was like "Pandora, wake up you silly cow." And when she led her off home. It's sweet.

EMILY/NAOMI is going to be interesting, too. I'm excited for that. I want to see more of the twins, I was just thinking it seems like they (and Naomi) didn't have much to do this episode.

It didn't feel like a second episode, it felt more like a third or fourth if that makes sense...maybe just because the first one was such a good start and it really felt like a BEGINNING, or maybe because there was no real transition/explanation in terms of the kids all hanging out together.


I do in fact realise that I have essentially quoted your entire post back to you, but SRSLY BRAIN TWIN. Though I have to say I'm not feeling JJ too much. I mean he's sweet and everything but I'm just not all that emotionally invested in his character yet.

I DO NOT GET why people are comparing him to Chris and saying he's trying to be the new Chris or whatever. I don't see the similarities! Chris was like a million times more likeable! And more sane!

After watching 3.02, I think Cook is actually more like Tony than Chris: he's so manipulative and he withholds LIKE QUITE IMPORTANT INFORMATION from people when it suits him. He looks more like Chris though, and has his nutter/fuck it streak, but super-sized because I feel that Chris would actually get quite a bit worried about Bristol gangsters. And P.S. lololol at Gareth Of The Office the Gangster.


I'm liking the slashing potential of this lot, but I'm not all that bothered by everything else.

[likecharity.livejournal.com]

LOL at you quoting my whole entry back at me. That's a lot of agreement, yay!! :D

I know what you mean about JJ, I guess my love for him is basically just OMG SO HEARTBREAKINGLY ADORABLE rather than actual interest in his character and stuff. Idk. And I agree with you about the Tony and Cook comparisons. Definitely. Although I don't think he's actually properly LIKE either of them, because obviously, you know, he's a new character and all. XD

[amortentia-x.livejournal.com]

[yazzigazzi.livejournal.com]

Hey, so I've just found a way to watch Skins online (I'd really watch it on TV but it's gonna be another million years til they'll show the series here, if ever) ...

Well, I DID pre order it on DVD. YAY!

So, I'm excited I can finally join the discussions - sadly, I'm a BIT behind I suppose but that won't scare me off. I'm catching up.. just watch me xD
I'll be on to the third episode in a minute.

Just wanted to get off my chest that I def agree with you about Freddie - I find him to be boring, dull and not a wee attractive. I don't even know what Effy seems to see in him (well, maybe she's awesome enough for the both of them! xD)
However, I like Cook. Really. I know I'm about the only one but that's okay:D I mean, yeah, he might be a prick but Tony was, too, and everyone loved him. I think Cook's just a little harder to like / see through but, well, I like him already...

I love Emily. I could really see something happening with her and Eff (if only in fanfiction... which I will check out as soon as I've caught up).

Okay, fine everyone, laugh because I'm still behind the moon. :D

[likecharity.livejournal.com]

Yayy! I'm so happy for you, isn't it awesome?

I'm glad you agree with me about Freddie, so many people seem to really love him and I'm pretty sure it's just because he's attractive, because his personality's really nothing special. And yeah, I don't even find him that attractive. He's pretty in a boring way. XD

I'm starting to like Cook more as the season goes on, so I can kind of understand you there. I like the idea of him being harder to 'see through' in a way. I don't want them to turn him into some poor misunderstood character but I like the idea of the way he acts being to cover up how he feels or something. I don't know, I definitely find him interesting though.

And yay for Emily, she's lovely!

I don't think 'behind the moon' is an expression here, haha, but I think I got what you meant anyway. XD

[yazzigazzi.livejournal.com]

Ehem... 'behind the moon'... is that even a saying in english? Sorry if not xD