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Lol so occasionally people tell me they sometimes read things I've written purely because I've written them, even if it's not a pairing or idea or whatever that they would usually want to read. Which is still mind-bogglingly awesome to me, but um, I'M REALLY TESTING YOUR LOYALTY NOW AREN'T I. Sorry.

Also can we just take a moment to express some joy/amazement at the fact that in less than three weeks, I've written more than 20,000 words? THIS IS REALLY SHOCKING AND WONDERFUL.

Anyway, on with the weirdness:


Title: you still give me goosebumps
Author: likecharity
Pairing: Skandar/Tilda
Rating: (Very) hard R
Warnings: Real person het, giant age gap, sexual activity in a semi-public but deserted place...is anyone else sensing a trend? :/
Summary: Her expression is challenging, and at once, he hates her and adores her, can't tell if he wants to make her come because he loves her or just to prove that he can.
A/N: I actually don't feel that bad about this, I think I've been wanting to write this pairing for years. Also, I feel the need to share that I had my iTunes on shuffle while writing this, and it decided to play me a song called 'Lick The Witch'. NOT EVEN KIDDING. I decided against calling the fic that, though—the title is from 'Goosebumps' by Fujiya & Miyagi.


He has a tenuous grasp on the scene, feeling as though it keeps slipping from his fingers every time she speaks. They're in an otherwise-empty conference room, sitting across from each other at the long table and trying to rehearse their lines together. And Tilda is tactful, giving Skandar a decent chance to get to grips with things, not mentioning the trouble he's clearly having.

But eventually she speaks up, perhaps losing her patience with him. He can't blame her.

"What's the problem, little man?" she asks, eyes twinkling, and the use of the old nickname sends a tingle down Skandar's spine.

"Oh no, no problem," Skandar lies, grinning brightly back at her and flipping back to the beginning of the scene in his script.

"Skandar," says Tilda, taking the script from his hands and placing it down on the table between them. She rests her elbow on the table, chin in hand, and looks at him with an expression that quite clearly says—to him, at least—'cut the bullshit'. In fact, she looks at him for so long that he starts to get seriously uncomfortable.

"What?" he asks eventually, letting out an anxious laugh.

"Skandar, we've been rehearsing for more than twenty minutes now, and it's really a very short scene," Tilda says. "I know you can do better than this."

She sounds concerned rather than disappointed, but he finds himself apologising anyway. "I'm sorry. I know. It's just—this scene. Don't you think it sounds a bit—" he says, and trails off, not sure exactly how to phrase it. Not sure what it sounds like.

It doesn't help that her eyes are on him, curious and scrutinizing. And his heart sinks, because god, this is how it's always been. He thought maybe it would be different this time, now that he's eighteen and this is their third time working together. But she's always been such a presence in his life, and he can't avoid that, can't seem to act casual with her no matter how hard he tries.

He remembers sitting in a sleigh with her at twelve years old, blushing as the rest of the cast and crew teased him, called her his girlfriend. He remembers how he'd giggle and squirm and tell them to shut up, and how he'd still be bright red when Andrew called action, and she was unfazed, just smiling at him in amusement, cocooning him in her furs. He remembers how he'd get so embarrassed and uncomfortable that he'd almost be unable to say his lines.

Seems not much has changed since then.

And maybe it's unfair, but suddenly he's angry at her, like it's her fault he feels this way. Because she's the one who's such a distraction, and it's not fair for her to be so composed, acting so bemused by his behaviour.

"You know what I mean," he snaps, losing his temper at the way she's just sitting there quietly smiling at him.

"Maybe I don't," she says, melodiously, leaning back in her chair and folding her arms. "Please, enlighten me. What's wrong with the lines?"

"There's nothing wrong with them," he says, frustrated, kicking at the table leg like a moody teenager. She always makes him feel so young, so immature. "Ugh, forget it. Let's just try again."

She shrugs, ever evasive. "Sure," she says, pulling her script back across the table towards her.

And at first it's all right, and he can ignore the way the blood is pumping faster through his veins as though he's ready for something. But then she's saying, I can make you my King, and pausing to smile at him before the and much more, and his fingers tremble, script shaking in his hands.

"What are you trying to prove, Edmund?" she asks, and she's good, so good, speaking as if to an insolent child, and it brings him right back, right back to being twelve and a traitor and out of his depth in so many ways.

"That you're a man?" she continues, mockingly, and he can't look her in the eye, he can't, because he's not at all in character and it doesn't feel like she is, either, it hits too close to home and it's too harsh and personal and suffocating.

"Look at me, Edmund," she says, which isn't in the script, and he knows that because his eyes are boring holes in the fucking paper as it quivers in his clammy hands.

But he does look at her, because he's never been able to deny her anything, because he just seems to comply instantly and automatically whenever she asks something of him (or demands it). And there's something wicked simmering behind her green eyes, and he can't stand it, can't stand how amused she looks by his state of distress. By the ease with which she can work him into a frenzy like this.

"I can make you that," she says simply, eyes fixed on his, and her face falls serious, as if all the gentle teasing has suddenly gone from her voice.

He doesn't remember his line. He can't. All he can do is stare into those eyes, and he really feels just like Edmund, faced with this Witch who has an evil attachment to his head and his heart, who can see his darkest dreams and desires, and tease and tempt him like no one else. She's a misty, inhuman apparition to him now, not a real woman sitting on a chair across from him in a plaid skirt.

They stare at each other for so long. So, so long.

"I can make you that." She says the line again, eventually, intonation dropping. It's not clear if she's prompting him, or something more.

He remembers that time—the one time she ever got truly angry with him, the time she came across him nicking sweets from craft services during the first movie, on a dare from Will. She'd been witness to a telling-off Andrew had given him the previous day, probably his third ban from caffeine and sugar since they'd started shooting. And it was horrible, because she reminded him of his mother in that moment. It reminded him that she was a mother, that he'd been fooling himself that they could be friends, that no matter how many times they went to the movies or played miniature golf together she was still a grown-up and he was still a kid, and she saw him as her responsibility.

That was easy to forget with Tilda, because she seemed so much like an equal to everybody, cast and crew alike, ages irrelevant. The things she chose to do with him—and with the others, with Will and Anna and Georgie—were the things Skandar would do with friends, and it got confusing in his twelve-year-old mind. And because she was such an important person on set, someone everyone was in awe of, Skandar felt special for being the one who had the most scenes with her.

He felt special when he split off from the others to film scenes with her alone, like he was an adult and they were just co-stars working together on the same level. And he felt special when she wanted to spend time with him off set, too, when she took him to lunch and to the cinema—just the two of them. And then he felt special every time he saw her on set and said, "Hey, Matilde," quoting Zoolander and seeing others look puzzled by their inside joke. And then at the wrap party, she gave him that greenstone necklace, a gift much more meaningful than any she gave to the others.

He brings his hand to his throat absentmindedly, wishing he could still feel the rough black cord of the necklace there, remembering how he wore it for years until it finally frayed and split.

It was like a reminder to him, that necklace, a reminder of how things had truly been during shooting, how magical the atmosphere was. Being on set back then, the way he felt about her seemed quite normal. It didn't cause him so much anguish. Because on set, everybody was enamoured with Tilda, would speak openly of their admiration and not try to hide their stares when she entered a room. But back home, back at school, it was hard not to feel that his infatuation was wrong somehow. Because everything around him told him that she wasn't the type of woman a teenage boy should want, not with her androgynous face and short haircut and no make-up. Not to mention the fact that she's easily old enough to be his mother.

"Your line, Skandar," Tilda breathes, then, hardly even a whisper, and he's brought back to the present, sitting here so many years later as an adult—finally—not a child, tension crackling in the air between them.

"I don't know it," he hears himself say, and his voice sounds strange to his own ears—it's almost as though he expects it to come out higher, as though he's forgotten that it broke a long time ago now.

She's never expressed surprise at the way he's grown, the way Liam does at each premiere, the way journalists do in their articles. She sees his aging the same way he does—a perfectly normal, natural, and expected thing. At the Wardrobe and Caspian premieres, she greeted him exactly the same way: "Well, don't you look handsome?" No my, haven't you grown, like a distant aunt. And it's comforting, in some ways, because it makes him feel closer to her, makes him feel like she understands, because the only others who don't mention it are the people who see him every day. But at the same time, it makes him wonder if she even notices, whether she's even aware that he's a young man now instead of the child he was when they met. He wants—needs—her to know that, and sometimes it's hard to tell if she does.

"You have a script," she reminds him coolly with a smile.

He feels his sinuses sting as though he's about to cry. He shakes his head, partly to try and shake off the feeling, and partly in disagreement, because no, no he doesn't, there's no script for this situation and the one in his hands is useless to him now, only serving to confuse him further. She seems so gentle now, but for some reason there's old fear creeping into his bones, and he feels on edge around her, wary. It's a familiar feeling, but one has hasn't experienced for a very long time.

People on set used to call it his girls' disease, Will used to say it was a 'mild form of hating all women'. But the truth is, Skandar was just intimidated by them, particularly those who were much older and scarier, because he couldn't tell what they could possibly be thinking and they made him feel even more awkward in his own skin. And after all, no woman is more intimidating than Tilda Swinton.

Andrew's elaborate planning of their interactions didn't help. He remembers how he was allowed to practice his lines with Tilda—much like this, at tables that seemed even bigger when he was so little—but he never saw her at any other time. And she was so professional, and so serious, barely saying a word to him besides what was in the script and then vanishing after each rehearsal. He would get so nervous beforehand, scared of messing up because it seemed like if he did, she would get really angry with him.

And then the next time he saw her, she was the White Witch, coils of dreadlocked hair like snakes, crown of icicles on her head, costume that looked as though it had been made from the snow and frozen rivers as well as the pelts of dead animals. Her skin was ghostly pale and she seemed eight foot tall, otherworldly. He'd thought she couldn't possibly be more frightening to him, and he was so wrong.

But then something strange happened. After their very first filmed scene together, Andrew called cut, and as he passed by he winked and said to her, "You can talk to him now." Tilda turned to Skandar and grinned, and it was the first time he had ever seen her smile.

She explained to him that their contact had been limited so that his reactions would seem more real when they finally came to film their first scene. And then all of a sudden she was friendly, so friendly, chatting with him like all the other cast and crew and making him feel silly for ever being so scared of her in the first place. She had seemed so threatening, but beneath it all she was so lovely, and it made Skandar think that perhaps he shouldn't be so afraid of women after all.

He's startled to realise that his eyes are welling up.

"Come here," Tilda says softly now, and beckons.

He thinks she can't possibly expect him to walk all the way around the long, long table to her side, and so he slides down off his chair, slips beneath the table instead, crawls under it towards her, trying not to bang his head. It's a childish move, perhaps, but it comes instinctively to him.

He comes to rest at her feet. Her legs are open, and it seems almost easy to shuffle between them. Only his heart betrays him, thudding in his chest in response to what he's doing, fitting himself between her knees in order to push his head out a little from under the table and look up at her.

She's smiling again, as she reaches down to caress his cheek. His head tilts into the touch, and he's smiling back up at her, sheepishly. She takes his other cheek, cups his face in her hands, and he feels his skin colour against her palms. This is how Tilda is—incredibly intimate sometimes, often with no real meaning behind it and seemingly unaware of whether or not it's appropriate. He remembers her once taking Will's hand on the red carpet, and how Will was startled and embarrassed, and Skandar felt jealous, and stupid for it.

"What's bothering that brain of yours?" Tilda whispers, her voice so beautiful and lilting, soothing his nerves.

But he can't reply, can't possibly explain, and so he just drops his head down onto her lap, lets it rest on her thigh, scratchy wool against his cheek. He feels safe here, somehow, despite the strangeness of it and how anxious it makes him at the same time, how shamefully exciting it is to be between her legs. He feels special, again, maybe—privileged. And he feels like she could look after him—won't, but could, and that's enough.

She's twisting a strand of his hair around her finger. His mouth is slightly open, and it seems easy to lift his head a little, to press a kiss to covered skin. He gets no reaction, so he does it again. Her hand falls from his head this time, and she watches him with curiosity but not much else. Boldly, his hands ease the skirt up, and his mouth keeps moving down, until he finds bare skin of her thigh against his lips. She's looking at him, still, and he can't figure out her expression. The main thing he can see is that she doesn't look all that surprised, which bothers him, because he's finding it hard to believe he's really doing this.

His eyes flicker down, and in the dim light he sees the thin, spidery veins beneath the white skin of her thigh, and the tiger stripes of stretchmarks as he pushes her skirt further up. Things that betray her age, perhaps, but neither of them mention it—her because she's not ashamed, and him because he knows she has no reason to be.

She's a true Scot with nothing on beneath her kilt. It startles him and he thinks perhaps it shouldn't, but then everything about this is making his nerves feel horribly delicate, and it's startling just to be on his knees before her like this, to feel her cool, bare thigh against the hot skin of his cheek. He feels so vulnerable, and he hasn't felt this way for a long, long time. Possibly, he thinks, not since the last time he worked with her.

He shifts, slowly, and she echoes the movement, sliding further forwards along the chair to make things easier for him. She does it so gracefully, so casually, that it doesn't seem like the gesture it is—encouragement, an offering.

He brushes his mouth against the slightly coarse hair between her legs, and catches himself smiling—she dyes her hair so often, it's easy to forget she's a natural redhead. But it seems strange that down here, she's just the same as any other woman. And perhaps it's a silly thing to be surprised by, but in all other respects, she's so wildly different from the women Skandar has met, and it's jarring sometimes, to be reminded that she's human too, just like him.

For a moment he's not sure he can do this—if he really wants to. He feels panicked and claustrophobic between her legs, heart in his throat. But when he looks up at her, she's smiling, looking at him like he's a puppy or a sweet but foolish child. And it's as though she's read his mind, as though she doesn't really expect anything of him at all, as though this is all a game to her and she's comfortable in the knowledge that she's winning.

He feels a desperate need to prove himself to her, a need to wipe the smile from her face. He needs to make her see, make her feel, just how much of a man he is. It's a burst of anger, but beneath it there's a deep-seated love, a desperation to show her how much she means to him.

He feels as though he's always flustered in her presence, bumbling around making a fool of himself while she seems perfectly composed and confident at all times. The only time he's ever seen that falter was that one time she snapped, lost her temper with him. And again, he felt like Edmund, seeing a flash of the true Jadis for the first time. He wants to see that again, wants to feel like she's truly herself with him.

This isn't something he feels he's skilled at, because it's not something he's done much before, and never with anyone who would know much better, just teenage girls glad to have a guy reciprocate for once. And he wants to be good, for her, wants to shatter her composure and see her sprawled out in the chair in front of him gasping for breath. But he's almost frantic, he's so eager, and he's just as flustered as ever, his tongue slip-sliding clumsily over slick skin (other men have probably made her wetter, he thinks, and feels angry for it, childish jealousy welling up inside him).

I know you can do better, her words echo in his head, almost taunting, and he clutches at her thighs and the wool of her skirt and strokes deeper and deeper inside her until he thinks he hears her breath hitch. When he looks up at her, he knows how his face must look—angry, his brow furrowed savagely and his eyes dark with determination. And she's placid as ever, even with the quickening rise and fall of her chest, sweat shining in the hollow of her neck. She loosens her tie with her slender fingers, taking her time, in no hurry. Then she reaches down with the same hand, strokes it through his damp hair as if she's petting him. He shakes her off, angrily, finds a hot hard bud beneath his tongue and works at it, his eyes still fixed on her, burning.

She seems to almost smirk at him as she lifts one leg, gently hooking it over his shoulder, pulling him in closer, keeping him right where he is. He feels the breath catch in his throat. Her expression is challenging, and at once, he hates her and adores her, can't tell if he wants to make her come because he loves her or just to prove that he can.

He thinks of using his fingers, he thinks of technique, of things he's read and things his friends have said, but in that moment the only thing that matters is that he sees a reaction, and it almost doesn't matter if it's good or bad. And he gets it, when his teeth graze her delicate skin not quite accidentally, and he feels her jolt beneath him. The satisfaction is even more intense than he anticipated, and he does it again, and suckles hard at her, feels her pulse and hears her breathing quicken, louder and heavier.

It's this that starts to make him hard, starts to make him strain against the seam of his jeans and squirm in the hold she's got him in. He lets one hand slip from her thigh and go to his crotch, unbuttoning and unzipping and shoving his hand inside his boxers for some relief. He's slower with her then, distracted, finding it hard to focus on what he's doing as he strokes and tugs at himself fervently like a boy just learning how to wank.

And to his surprise, he feels a hand clutching at the back of his head, gripping his skull, Tilda silently urging him on. With her leg still hooked around the back of his neck and his face pressed against her, he can barely breathe, but it doesn't panic him, somehow just excites him further, and he works and works at her with his tongue until her thighs are trembling around his head, and oh god, he's actually making her thighs tremble, and he's stroking himself frantically with his sweaty hand and realising that perhaps this has been a fantasy of his for much, much too long.

(Memories he's tried to suppress out of shame come flooding back to him: confused and hard in his trailer at twelve, thinking of her cuddling him close in her furs—regularly wanking to a sex scene in one of her other movies at fourteen, hiding the DVD beneath his mattress—and then, at sixteen, fantasising about this, and many other things, trying desperately to think of ex-girlfriends and Jessica Alba but always, always coming back to Tilda—)

And now he's eighteen years old and everything is tense and tight and throbbing as she comes with a soft cry that rings in his ears, and for a moment he's still going, tongue aching and stiff as he drags it over her again and again until her leg falls from his shoulder and she's gently easing his head back. He can't bring himself to look at her right away, and his hand is still moving furiously around himself as if on autopilot as he just stares, almost blankly, between her legs.

But then he feels her stroke her fingers down his cheek, and he melts into the touch once again, lets her lift his chin up to look at her. She's slightly pink in the cheeks and her forehead bears a slight sheen of sweat, but aside from that and her still-heavy breathing, she looks the same as always. Skandar, though, knows his mouth is wet, his whole face is deep red with embarrassment and arousal, and his hair is damp and matted. He stares at her, and she cups his face and watches him, as he brings himself over the edge, biting his lip to hold back a groan as he spills over his clenched hand.

He goes weak, slumps on the floor before her, and he's only vaguely aware of her pushing back her chair to make more room before pulling him up towards her. His wet hand is shaking down between his legs, but he forgets about it when she kisses him, soft and slow and using her tongue, and making him shudder against her when he thinks about where his mouth has just been. Then she's straightening out her kilt and reaching down to clean him off with a tissue she's produced from her pocket, and he just lets her do it. A memory comes to him of the White Witch wiping powdered sugar from Edmund's lips, and something aches in his heart.

She's almost businesslike as she tucks him back into his trousers and zips him up.

"Do you feel better now?" she asks him softly, and he's infuriated to see that her slightly bemused smile is back.

But he doesn't have a chance to dwell on it, because just then there's a loud creak and the door is opening, and there's a woman standing there in the doorway looking a little startled. And Skandar is still kneeling on the floor, and he ducks down, his instinct being to hide, at least to hide the telltale signs of what they've been doing that are all over his face. He'd almost forgotten that they were in public, that the door wasn't locked, and the thought that this woman could have been just a couple of minutes earlier makes him panic.

"Oh, hi," says the woman, "I—er—I didn't realise anyone was in here."

"We were just rehearsing," Tilda replies, relaxed as ever, "it seemed to be the only empty place."

And, quick as a flash, her hand slides down by her side and Skandar sees that she's pointing a pen at him. He stares at it blankly, and then realises what she's doing and takes it, hurriedly scrambling to his feet.

"Yeah, just uh, running through some lines," he says, and clears his throat. "Dropped my pen."

The woman nods, but still looks slightly puzzled, and Skandar wipes his mouth, agitated, sure that it's written all over his face. He's surprised, though, that somewhere beneath the panic is that childish excitement again, to be sharing a secret with Tilda. It makes him feel pathetic to recognise that it's there, still, even after what he's just done.

"Well, we need the room, I'm afraid," the woman says. "Is there anywhere else you could rehearse?"

Tilda heaves a sigh. "Ah, the trials and tribulations of acting," she says wryly. "Well, we'll endeavor to find another nook or cranny, won't we, Skandar?"

Skandar runs a hand through his damp hair, nodding. "Yeah, yeah, no worries," he says, and grabs his script at the same time as Tilda reaches for hers. Their hands brush and he practically feels sparks.

He squeezes past the woman in the doorway with his head hung low, and Tilda follows with hers held high.

Only a few minutes later, they're sitting opposite each other on the floor of the corridor, and the paper is quivering in Skandar's hands once again as Tilda looks him in the eye and reads her lines like they aren't really lines at all.

"You can't kill me off," she says, voice soft and strangely sympathetic, "I'm always there. Forever in your mind."

And Skandar realises, with a sinking feeling in his heart, that she's right. He feels that reluctant acceptance sink in, knowing that it really doesn't matter what he does. This relationship will never, ever change.




End.

Date: 2010-12-15 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moogle62.livejournal.com
THIS COMMENT IS NOT GOING TO BE ONE OF THE MOST COHERENT ONES, I AM TELLING YOU NOW.

OKAY.

ASJKABFSHBFHSGDKFSDKJFH

wait no, I can do better than this. I might just have to go and read it again and come back in a minute, hang on.

Date: 2010-12-15 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likecharity.livejournal.com
I DO LIKE MAKING PEOPLE INCOHERENT. ♥

Date: 2010-12-15 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moogle62.livejournal.com
RIGHT, LET'S GIVE THIS ANOTHER TRY.

I am going to just have to do bullet points like I did with the Ben/Georgie or essentially I will just fill the comment box with keyboard smashing and nonsense capslock and that won't be the most useful comment. You should know that, in anticipation of how AWESOME this was going to be, I had a word document open for me to copy/paste the bits I liked most so I would remember to talk about them and that word document now has most of your fic in it. WELL DONE SELF.

ANYWAY, HERE WE GO.

- She rests her elbow on the table, chin in hand, and looks at him with an expression that quite clearly says—to him, at least—'cut the bullshit'. In fact, she looks at him for so long that he starts to get seriously uncomfortable.
 - I HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN HER DO THIS. When she did the thing at the Edinburgh Film Festival that I went to see, the interviewer asked her something and she did exactly this. OH TILDA WE LOVE YOU.
- SKANDAR NOT BEING ABLE TO GET HIS LINES RIGHT/OUT AT ALL DJFHJSHDFGL
- There's nothing wrong with them," he says, frustrated, kicking at the table leg like a moody teenager. She always makes him feel so young, so immature. "Ugh, forget it. Let's just try again."
 - THIS. KJADJSEBFKS
- she can make him her king and much more, god, that line is just the most brain-splamming thing ever. Although, I don't think she says 'and much more' in the actual film? I looked out for it b/c it was so awesome in the trailer and I don't remember hearing it. I shall look again at work tonight! Maybe I am just deaf. ANYWAY IT WORKS REALLY WELL HERE.
- not a real woman sitting on a chair across from him in a plaid skirt. - it must be incredibly surreal to have to run lines with Tilda; I would have problems reconciling what I was doing with her actually being there (again, like I was in Edinburgh, it was super weird. BUT AWESOME).
- Because on set, everybody was enamoured with Tilda, would speak openly of their admiration and not try to hide their stares when she entered a room. But back home, back at school, it was hard not to feel that his infatuation was wrong somehow. Because everything around him told him that she wasn't the type of woman a teenage boy should want, not with her androgynous face and short haircut and no make-up. - OH GOD I LOVE THIS BIT SO MUCH. Like, of course on set everyone is just like HNNG TILDA YOU ARE A GODDESS and then back in the world of normal 12 year old boys everyone likes boobtastic, overly-made-up page three girls and not forty-something androgynous women. Then again, when I was twelve, my favourite actress was Sigourney Weaver so what do I know?
- He feels his sinuses sting as though he's about to cry...for some reason there's old fear creeping into his bones, and he feels on edge around her, wary. It's a familiar feeling, but one has hasn't experienced for a very long time.
 - NO COHERENCY, JUST SPLAM. LOTS AND LOTS OF SPLAM.
- And after all, no woman is more intimidating than Tilda Swinton. - TRUFAX, SKANDAR.
- akjdhahjsgf Skandar getting nervous before he read lines with Tilda because SHE MIGHT GET ANGRY WITH HIMMMM. I want fic now of the time she lost her temper with him :p /demanding.
- OH GOD THAT WHOLE BIT WHERE HIS EYES WELL UP AND HE CRAWLS UNDER THE TABLE AND SITS BETWEEN HER LEGS, JEEEEEEESUS. LEGIT UNABLE TO COPE. It's like, crying and d/s AND h/c, so that basically hits most of my kinks with a big splammy mallet, well done you. I particularly like how he thinks that Tilda can't want him to walk around the table so he crawls under it - like, she hasn't even said anything but he assumes she wants something, and particularly this, like, subservience, and so he just does it. HE JUST DOES IT SDJKBFLJSG THIS BIT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE MY FAVOURITE PART.
- TILDA BEING INTIMATE AT RANDOM TIMES AND NOT NOTICING/CARING WHETHER IT BOTHERS PEOPLE. HOLDING WILL'S HAND ON THE RED CARPET (I LOVED THOSE PICTURES), OH GOD, SEND HELP, STUCK IN CAPS.

Date: 2010-12-15 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likecharity.livejournal.com
UGH ILU THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS. I AM ALWAYS HAPPY WITH FLAILY INCOHERENT COMMENTS BUT IT IS KIND OF THE BEST WHEN PEOPLE PICK OUT THE THINGS THEY LIKED THE MOST. ♥♥♥ (Also I have totally done that c&p-ing into a Word document thing before when preparing a comment haha.)

ALL OF YOUR FAVOURITE THINGS ARE MY FAVOURITE THINGS. THAT IS AWESOME. Also awesome is the fact that I apparently managed to textually replicate something she has actually done irl.

You're right, I didn't catch the 'and much more' in the film either. Maybe they decided it was too inappropriate-sounding. But apparently the whole "I can make you a man" thing isn't?? Idk, idk. Anyway, seeing as it was in the trailer and IS SUCH AN AWESOME LINE, I figured it made sense to use it for this.

I'M SO GLAD YOU LIKED THE BIT ABOUT HIM FEELING LIKE HE SHOULDN'T BE ATTRACTED TO HER. 'Cause like, I felt sort of mean about it? But it's true, she's not exactly the type of woman that media teaches teenage boys to want.

Bb Skandar being nervous about her getting angry just felt really logical to me. Like, I'd be scared of her getting mad at me and I'm a full grown woman. ALSO I SORT OF WANT FIC OF HER LOSING HER TEMPER WITH HIM TOO. I wanted to go into more detail but I felt I might get carried away.

God, I really like what you said about the crawling-under-the-table bit, because I KNEW I had some weird obsession with that happening and for some reason I couldn't quite work out why. But yeah it's basically a smorgasbord of all the psychological fuckery that I enjoy. SUBSERVIENCE. And also the way that it was quite childish in maybe a creepy way, but you said other things about the maternal aspect and it doesn't seem to have come out creepily SO THAT IS GOOD.

I had to include the bit about her holding Will's hand, I haaaad to. Except she actually did it twice (TWICE WHAT IS WRONG WITH HER) but Skandar wasn't there one of the times.

Date: 2010-12-15 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moogle62.livejournal.com
NEEDED TWO COMMENTS FOR ALL THE FLAIL. LET'S CONTINUE.


- And he feels like she could look after him—won't, but could, and that's enough. - AJSBFKJDSBFJLSBDGJSGBSFLKSJDFHSKDLHFJFDSFHS DHGAI;DGFIUAG
JSFGJAGFJGFAL
ASGFALGSFAGF


AUGHSDAIGSFUYAGFAEFGALF

ahem (that might actually be my favourite part). Jesus. It's like what we were talking about - Tilda being all the types of women - and it's sort of maternal and sort of detached and sort of sexual and DID I MENTION AIUSDGAGFAUKG
- I love that Tilda just isn't surprised at all, like she's been waiting for this since he's grown up.
-
His eyes flicker down, and in the dim light he sees the thin, spidery veins beneath the white skin of her thigh, and the tiger stripes of stretchmarks as he pushes her skirt further up. Things that betray her age, perhaps, but neither of them mention it—her because she's not ashamed, and him because he knows she has no reason to be.
- you are just the best ever. I love that she's so real, and it goes with that bit about other people thinking he's weird for liking Tilda, and him trying to think about Jessica Alba (that splammed me too) but coming back to Tilda, because she is just better for him. I can't even put the thought right in my head to explain why I like this bit so much, but I REALLY DO.
- how much she means to him - asfhsgfhsdgfkds etc
- And he wants to be good, for her - WAIT NO, THIS MIGHT BE MY FAVOURITE.
- I know you can do better - this whole bit sent me a bit mad. TAKING OFF HER TIE. LOOKING COMPLETELY COMPOSED. SKANDAR LOOKING REALLY ANGRY.
-SKANDAR FINALLY GETTING A REACTION OUT OF HER, HOLY HELL
- actually all of that was pretty amazing
- no, really
- and hot too
- TILDA MAKING HIM LOOK AT HER WHEN HE CAME
- Then she's straightening out her kilt and reaching down to clean him off with a tissue she's produced from her pocket, and he just lets her do it. A memory comes to him of the White Witch wiping powdered sugar from Edmund's lips, and something aches in his heart. - THIS SENT ME SO WRONG. SO, SO WRONG. YOU ARE AMAZING, THIS IS AMAZING, TILDA IS AMAZING, EVERYTHING IS AMAZING.
- Tilda heaves a sigh. "Ah, the trials and tribulations of acting," she says wryly. "Well, we'll endeavor to find another nook or cranny, won't we, Skandar?"
- THIS IS SO TILDA. I love her.

I KNEW I WOULD LOVE THIS FIC AND I DID.

Well, I think that was restrained and sensible and not at all embarrassingly ridiculous or anything like that. <33333

and now you can write the ben/skandar thing :p

Date: 2010-12-15 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likecharity.livejournal.com
OMG TWO COMMENTS AWESOMESAUCE

That line might maybe be my favourite and I couldn't even figure out why - I'm so glad you love it too. It IS like what we were saying about her weird role(s) in his life.

OH MAN I COULDN'T WORK OUT WHAT TILDA WAS GENUINELY THINKING ABOUT THE WHOLE THING. On the one hand I did want it to be like she'd sort of been expecting it, and that's why she wasn't surprised, but on the other hand I like the idea of her being kinda baffled by the whole thing but not really caring. Because that just frustrates him more because it's like she'll just never see how much she means to him. And I think I've settled somewhere in the middle, where she DOES understand and was expecting it, but is pretending that isn't the case. 'Cause she's evil idk.

The bit about her age/body seemed important to include, too, 'cause like you said it links with his worries about the 'weirdness' of his attraction to her, and it's also just a way of saying SO SHE'S KIND OF OLD BUT NEITHER OF THEM CARE.

Loosening her tie and looking totally composed while Skandar is like a tornado of emotions = sort of my favourite, ngl. Also her making him look at her. And the cleaning him off thing. WHAT IS WRONG WITH US I DON'T EVEN KNOW.

I'm so glad you thought I got Tilda's voice right in those few bits 'cause she's kind of an intimidating person to write, oh god. AND JUST IN GENERAL I AM REALLY PLEASED THAT YOU LIKE IT, BECAUSE WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT THE WHOLE THING AND SO IT MEANS A LOT. ♥♥♥ I love your comments sooo much.

And the Ben/Skandar thing is definitely next on the agenda. :P

Date: 2010-12-15 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thisissirius.livejournal.com
FJSLK;FJSALJFLJSKLFJ;

JEN. THIS POST IS AMAZING.

THIS FIC. OH GOD. I HAVE SO MUCH TO SAY BUT I CAN'T GET PAST THE WHOLE SKANDAR/TILDA THING. OH JESUS.

i don't know why i'm attracted to this as much as i am. it's your fault. REMEMBER THE KINK MEME WHEN I WROTE IT FOR YOU? THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT.

"We were just rehearsing," Tilda replies, relaxed as ever, "it seemed to be the only empty place."

lololol oh i see, tilda. rehearsing.

Date: 2010-12-15 03:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likecharity.livejournal.com
AGH THANK YOU. ♥ Lol I know we sort of share the same feelings on this pairing. AND I DO REMEMBER YOU WRITING IT FOR ME. OF COURSE I REMEMBER THAT.

They were OBVS just rehearsing, didn't you know that Edmund totally goes down on the apparition of the Witch in the movie??

SPEAKING OF WHICH, HAVE YOU SEEN THE MOVIE YET?

Date: 2010-12-15 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thisissirius.livejournal.com
OF COURSE I DID. THAT WILL BE MY FAVOURITE SCENE.

hahaha we do have similar taste! i love that narnia is making a come back-ish thing, here, because we NEED more fic!

NO. NO I HAVE NOT YET. i have to wait until i go home because the bff wants to see it with me. WHY DO I ALWAYS HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE MOVIES I WANT? FIRST HP AND NOW NARNIA. EVERYONE HATES ME. I NEED EDMUND IN MY LIFE.

I WILL DEF. BE TEXTING YOU AFTER, BB.

have you seen it yet?

Date: 2010-12-15 03:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likecharity.livejournal.com
THAT WOULD BE MY FAVOURITE SCENE OF ALL SCENES. Unless there was a Peter/Edmund sex scene, obvs.

It seems like a pretty quiet comeback but NOT FOR ME BECAUSE I AM WRITING SO MUCH. I'm still thinking we might need another kink meme to get people back in the spirit. Every now and then I get notified of someone leaving a comment on the old kink meme, so there must still be interest?

WELL THAT SUCKS. But after you see it with her you can always see it like five more times. I LOOK FORWARD TO THE TEXTING. I saw it on Friday, you can read my flaily post about it here (http://likecharity.livejournal.com/173145.html) if you want, but it has spoilers so you might want to wait. XD

Date: 2010-12-15 03:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thisissirius.livejournal.com
DSHKLHDLSAHDJK. it's a pity there won't be one of those.

hahaha. WE DO need a kink meme. i think there would be definite interest it's just that most new people into the fandom get overwhelmed because people have already formed friendships/etc and tend to stick to their own corners. i remember what it was like when i first entered the fandom via caspian and if i hadn't found you, i don't know what i would have done!

OMG I WILL SEE IT SO MANY TIMES I DON'T EVEN KNOW. i'll wait, i think, because i want to be all SURPRISE! when things happen. i am most looking forward to edmund ;-; (of course)

Date: 2010-12-15 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hot-jupiters.livejournal.com
Oh GOD.

Oh god, this is just. *WIDE-EYED*

How did you do this? Honestly, how did you craft something like this? It's mindblowingly realistic and so, so painfully hot. Oh my God. Your brain. Can I live in there?

Date: 2010-12-16 11:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likecharity.livejournal.com
♥♥♥

Thank you!!

To be honest, I don't even know how I did it. I think it's something that's been forming in the very back of my mind for far too many years, and so when it finally came to writing it, it was almost easy. It might also help that I had a lot of crushes on older, female authority-type figures when I was in my early teens. XD

I'm really glad you liked this. I'm so, so glad that it seemed realistic, and was hot rather than creepy, too.

Date: 2010-12-15 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sesqui-pedality.livejournal.com
*fans self* that was amazing. I love the way he just *worships* her, and also all of the bits that emphasize the age difference-- her acting like a mother to him that time she got angry, and twelve-old-boys liking supermodels not forty-year-olds, and her stretch marks (yours is the kind of fic that makes people feel better about their own bodies, and I love it), and her WIPING HIS FACE OFF WITH A TISSUE SHE TOOK OUT OF HER POCKET. Like he's her three-year-old son, with chocolate on his face, not....

Amazing. Just, how much he adores her, how powerful a figure she is to him, and him appreciating her, and her being kindly amused by him....

Date: 2010-12-16 11:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likecharity.livejournal.com
Thank you so much! I'm glad you liked it. It was a difficult line to tread, the bits that emphasised the age difference, so I'm glad that they worked for you. And oh my gosh, that bit about my fic making people feel better about their bodies? That is AWESOME, thank you.

And also, uhm. She's actually wiping the come off his hand WHICH IS EVEN WORSE, but you definitely got what I was going for with the slightly creepy mothering vibe. XD

Date: 2010-12-15 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katakokk.livejournal.com
OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD YOU HAVE KILLED ME.

I opened this right before I went to go see the movie and read maybe the first two lines, but then I had to go, or I wouldn't make the movie in time.

And then I saw the movie, and it was amazing.

AND NOW THIS. OH MY GOD. I DON'T DO AGE DIFFERENCE. That is my one big squick. But this....this is HOT. *fans self*

Date: 2010-12-16 11:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likecharity.livejournal.com
I'm so glad you liked it despite not doing age difference, omg, that means a lot. Thank you!!

AND WASN'T THE MOVIE AWESOME. SO AWESOME.

Date: 2010-12-16 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katakokk.livejournal.com
:))

AND YES IT WAS SO AWESOME. I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO BEGIN TO DESCRIBE IT.

Date: 2010-12-16 01:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizardwriter.livejournal.com
Wow. That was incredible. You write teenage boy amazingly. I love how he's so confused and in his flashbacks he thinks about how wrong he felt and how it's even wrong now, but differently. i love how he got angry and that drove him on. This was really awesome writing. Loved it!

Date: 2010-12-16 11:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likecharity.livejournal.com
Thank you so much! It's strange that I should be able to write teenage boy, when I have like...none, in my life. So that means a lot. ♥ I'm glad you liked it!

Date: 2010-12-16 10:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hideupabove.livejournal.com
ASLAN ALMIGHTY! I believe this is the first of your fics I have reviewed but I have read and loved the other. I must say that the idea of Tilda did kind of quick me out but FAR OUT, this was AWESOME!
your characterisations were fantastic and I can totally see her being, not cold but not quite involved either. Skandar's whole obsession thing was amazing.
Prior to reading your fics I must say I was a total Bin Bons fan but now Skandar is looking mighty fine ;)
Haha fantastically amazing job!

Date: 2010-12-16 11:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likecharity.livejournal.com
Thank you!! I'm glad you enjoyed it despite thinking you might not, haha. You totally got what I was going for with the not-cold-but-not-quite-involved thing. And if my fic can convert you to being a Skandar fan, then I must be doing something right. XD

Date: 2010-12-19 10:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexi-lupin.livejournal.com
OH MY GOD.

LOVE YOU.

:D

Date: 2010-12-20 12:43 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-12-20 12:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iamshunpike.livejournal.com
I was wondering when someone would write a full length fic of them.
It still creeps me out though, NEGL...I think it's the whole "she has two dudes in her life AND KIDS OH LAWD, KIDS" part that gets to me.
But dayum, "Lick the Witch"? Really??

Date: 2010-12-20 12:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likecharity.livejournal.com
I ship them seriously fucking hard, I'm not going to lie, but I totally understand that it creeps you out. I did get a little creeped out writing it, at points, so.

REALLY. NOT EVEN KIDDING. Shuffle is psychic sometimes, I swear. Like you.

Date: 2011-01-16 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] youreyesaregems.livejournal.com
It took me long enough to get to this, but I'm so glad I finally ~made the time to read it. It is SO GOOD. A few things I thought were awesome/noteworthy:

-Enjoyed all the references to Edmund and Jadis, especially the bit about her not talking to him before they filmed the first scenes. (Is this true, btw?) I really liked the fact that that relationship informed/reflected this one.
-Ajfgkjsdfkjg age gaps and authority issues = awesome. You kinky boy, Skandar.
-I kind of feel like having this from Skandar's POV makes it seem more filthy/wrong. I don't know if that's just me. I think reading something that focussed on Tilda more would have felt less dirty but maybe more embarassing for me, as a reader? Idk.

This is awesome, and the mix you just posted looks pretty great too. I really like all the psychological fuckery and d/s type themes that are creeping into your fics recently. Good stuff.

Date: 2011-01-16 10:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likecharity.livejournal.com
THANK YOU. <3 I'm really glad you like this. And the mix.

The kept-apart thing is, in fact, true. They could rehearse together, but Andrew wouldn't let her actually socialise with him at first. He did a similar kind of thing with James and Georgie because he thought it would make the first on-screen meeting seem more real, but I think with those two it was just that she didn't see him in costume. The Skandar and Tilda thing seems a liiiittle bit more messed up. There are a few things in this that are true actually--the necklace thing, too, and seeing Zoolander together and having inside jokes about it.

I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN. Like, in most pairings where there's one person much older than the other, you expect it would come across kinkier or more wrong from that person's POV? But for some reason with Skandar/Tilda, it's different, partly because he's so ashamed of his feelings and feels them so STRONGLY, so it ends up coming across in a dirtier way anyway.

♥ I'm glad you approve of the psychological fuckery, ahah. The d/s thing is rapidly becoming a huge kink of mine and while I'm not just randomly inserting it into every fic, it's definitely something I'm enjoying exploring in my writing, so I'm glad other people are enjoying that too. :)

Date: 2011-01-22 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyvivien.livejournal.com
oh my god. That might be the most perfect thing I have ever read. I'm not even kidding.

Date: 2011-01-22 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likecharity.livejournal.com
♥♥ This makes me so happy. I'm really glad, thank you.

Date: 2011-01-22 08:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyvivien.livejournal.com
WHY is there not more Tilda/Skandar fic out there? Or even just more Tildafic?

But seriously, you captured Skandar's emotions perfectly, as well as Tilda's indefinable Tildaness. Bravo!

Date: 2011-01-22 08:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likecharity.livejournal.com
I don't know! There seriously needs to be! Have you read this is the challenge (what are you so afraid of?) (http://moogle62.livejournal.com/107247.html) by [livejournal.com profile] moogle62? The two of us are always throwing ideas around for more of the pairing, so there might be more eventually. :)

That really means a lot to me, thank you - Tilda's indefinable Tildaness is something that's VERY difficult to put into words!!

Date: 2011-01-22 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyvivien.livejournal.com
I AM READING IT RIGHT NOW. The two of you have broken my brain.

Oooh, you know what would be awesome? Tilda/Skandar with Tilda in drag. I...may have to write it. Now. Bugger.

Date: 2011-01-22 08:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likecharity.livejournal.com
:D

Oh, hnnnng. That would be pretty much amazing. We have discussed her using a strap-on with him before, and how that - weirdly - seems to make more sense than them having sex the conventional way.

Date: 2011-01-22 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyvivien.livejournal.com
well, I'll be in need of a beta.... *flutters eyelashes*

Date: 2011-01-22 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyvivien.livejournal.com
*sigh* my Tilda muse has pointed out that for someone with her unique fashion sense and seeming lack/multiplicity of gender identity, conventional ideas of drag don't work.

On the plus side, I want to write a sequel where she convinces Skandar to wear a kilt.

Date: 2011-01-22 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likecharity.livejournal.com
I don't know, they still might! Even just her in a suit (possibly with her breasts bound) would probably work.

RE: that sequel idea, I think I love your brain.

Date: 2011-01-22 09:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyvivien.livejournal.com
Hah, the whole thing is turning into Scottish!porn. She's uncorked the whiskey now...

Date: 2011-01-22 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likecharity.livejournal.com
THIS SOUNDS MORE AND MORE AWESOME WITH EACH THING YOU SAY. I am totally up for Scottish!porn.

Date: 2011-01-22 09:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyvivien.livejournal.com
Sample:

"Do you want tea, or something stronger?"

He doesn't know what to say, which is his default setting around her, so he just mumbles "Whatever you're having."

He knows - he knows! - that he should never issue her a challenge, and his insides clench with apprehension as she pours the pale golden liquid into a tumbler.

"Let's start with one finger, shall we?" she asks, not that his answer will in any way effect what she's going to do. "Just let me know if you can handle any more."

Blood rushes to his face, pounding in his ears. He clears his throat, emitting a harsh, strangled sort of whine.

"What?" he chokes out, when he recovers the power of speech.

"It's how you measure whiskey," she tells him. Her face is deceptively innocent, but her eyes are full of mischief. "Here, let me show you."

She takes his hand, separates his fingers, and presses it lengthways against the glass. Sure enough, the thickness of his finger is equal to the contents. Her hand keeps it there for a moment, her touch lingering a fraction longer than it needs to, and he's painfully aware of her own long, slender digits caressing his lightly. He realises, with a sort of delicious horror, that if she'd meant what he thought she'd meant, he would have let her do that, too.

When she releases him, he takes a large, eager sip and shudders, warmth coursing through him. When his vision clears, he sees Tilda watching him hungrily.

Date: 2011-01-22 09:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likecharity.livejournal.com
Oh my goddddd. Oh my god, this is perfect. ♥ You've got their whole dynamic down, and ugh I love Tilda saying things that embarrass him and ACTING like she doesn't know what she's doing when she totally does, and Skandar being totally flustered, and knowing he should never challenge her, and hnnng her taking his hand, and He realises, with a sort of delicious horror, that if she'd meant what he thought she'd meant, he would have let her do that, too. ALL OF THIS IS PERFECT

Date: 2011-04-24 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prunesquallormd.livejournal.com
This comment is so incredibly late! Fail!
I've read it twice and meant to leave a comment straight after both times but just, well, didn't, obviously, so this is probably going to be a little vague on the details, but still. (It might make the tardiness of my comments a little easier to understand if I tell you that: 1) I tend to print out your stories so that I can read them wherever it's convenient, and 2) I read an awful lot in the bath. And well, baths and computers have a rather well-known dislike of each other :)).

So!
First of all, I have a question! You rate this as 'Very hard R'. Oh my god! What would have to be in it for it to be NC-17? :D
I mean, I know it's not super-explicit, but seriously the sheer heat of it puts it well up there with far more explicit things I've read (and obviously I mean that in the best possible way :)).

There's so much I love about this but I think, most of all, I love all that unspoken tension. At no point, as far as I recall, do they so much as hint at what's going on between them, it's all just left to stand, and yet there's so much there under the surface.
Poor Skandar! He has it so bad, and yet he's just too - what?, shy?, intimidated?, immature?, clueless?, all of the above and more? - to know it, and he certainly can't talk about it. I really hope Tilda actually puts him out of this misery at some point and tells him, one way or the other, because that last paragraph is rather heart-breaking.

But before the last paragraph! Again, the uncertainty of it, the silence, Skandar's battle between anger and possessiveness - wanting to make Tilda come just to show that he can - and love and affection. And obviously, the image of this apparently utterly controlled woman just breaking under his tongue. Just hnnnng! Hot :p

You show the complexity of their relationship so well, too, well, how it is in Skandar's head, anyway. His boyish crush on her, his realisation that she probably only sees him as a child, and then the development of his feelings into other far more complicated things. Wonderful!

Oh, and the hilarious inadequacy of Skandar's excuse! You can just see the cogs in the woman at the door's mind going, making connections that she knows can't possibly be true (can they?), balanced only by the weakest excuse imaginable. Heee :) Let's hope she's not a gossip :D

As always, so much to enjoy here, and I just wish I could give it a comment that does it justice!

♥♥♥
Edited Date: 2011-04-24 08:10 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-04-24 11:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likecharity.livejournal.com
Can I just say that I find it weirdly cool that you print out my stories to read them in the bath? I don't know why, I suppose I just always figure people just read them on the computer screen and the idea of them being printed out and read elsewhere is cool to me. :D Don't worry about the lateness! It was a nice surprise.

Oh man, I am so bad at trying to decide if something should be R or NC-17 and what the actual difference is. Generally now I figure that if it's fairly vague smut that doesn't mention actual words for genitalia, I can give it an R, whereas if it's much more detailed it gets an NC-17. But I struggled with this one, because it did end up kinda specific. And I also have this silly worry that giving something an NC-17 rating can sometimes de-value it in some way, because a total PWP would be rated NC-17, but a really long plot-filled fic could have one short but detailed sex scene and that would get an NC-17 too. And it's not like the PWP wouldn't be as good a story or anything, but sometimes I worry that an NC-17 rating reduces it to the sex alone. And with this fic in particular, I felt like it went deeper than that with Skandar's feelings and the intricacies of their relationship. It's hard to explain.

Then, as you said, there's something about just the strength of it, aside from the technicalities like whether I've written the word 'cock' or not, because a fic might say all the words but not have any heat to it, and then what does that mean for the rating? Hmm. It's tricky. But I'll take the fact that you thought it might need a higher rating as a compliment. :D

I have such a specific way of seeing Skandar and Tilda's relationship, and it's all thought out and detailed in my head, and so it's interesting to read the reactions of people who obviously don't have that, because as much as I tried to get it all across in the fic I just couldn't. I definitely don't see it as the kind of thing where they would acknowledge anything that was going on, it's almost competitive in that way. And Skandar's denial and refusal to say anything comes mostly from shame, in my mind, and shyness and intimidation, all centered around the fact that he met her when he was so young and she was an even more intimidating character, and he was scared of women and Andrew basically set the whole thing up for him to see her a certain way.

Gah - rambling now, I get this way about them. Anyway, I'm so glad I could show the complexity of the relationship at all, let alone well - thank you. ♥ As always, I love your comments.

Poor random woman at the door!! I think she would probably just assume her mind was playing tricks on her, because surely she didn't just walk in on the aftermath of the kid who plays Edmund going down on Tilda Swinton...haha. XD

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